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Bamboozled On A So-Called Monster Toned Dollar...

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 Posted 12/20/2016  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TaeKenDo to your friends list
I'm looking at the difference and it seems to be as fredor says splotchy as compared to a gradual blending of colors across the coin either from the center out or edge inwards, or from one edge to the other. Big difference from the one I bought.

Here's a couple of others that came in the lot.




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12/20/2016 11:32 pm
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 Posted 12/21/2016  12:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list
The coins could have been stored in a garden shed full of chemicals or somewhere else that has harsh corrosive atmosphere to produce effects like these.
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 Posted 12/21/2016  06:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
I'd say a potato, or oven, or brown paper towel or a combination of them and you have colors like that.
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 Posted 12/21/2016  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
I'm not commenting on the 36 here..

..but the last 2 pics show the 71 with a lot of colour.

All of my 70's had a ton of colour in them (my 72's were especially beautiful)..and that's probably from the black clam shell single holders that they originally came in from the mint.

I melted almost all of them a few years back when silver moved up and gold was at $1841 /oz..

No regrets though as dealers were not offering any more than melt for anything that I had..and I had not made it to this CCF Forum..
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 Posted 12/21/2016  2:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TaeKenDo to your friends list
I've seen hundreds of the 1971-72-73's with beautiful colors. I find it hard to believe this is an artificial color...but I guess anything's possible. :(
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 Posted 12/21/2016  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list
THAT coin doesn't even look real AT for sure.
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 Posted 12/21/2016  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list

Quote:
THAT coin


..but which coin is the "that coin"..?..
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 Posted 12/21/2016  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paulsz to your friends list
The 1971 looks fairly genuine to me. The obverse has toning that isn't splotchy, but the reverse does. That's what I usually have seen online with these dollars (even in PCGS/NGC holders). That's because of the holders they came in. The 1936 is AT, as others have said. There's the same type of splotchy toning on both side.
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 Posted 12/21/2016  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
To each, his own.
I am not particularly enamoured with the toning of these.

The toning on the coins pictured is in a state of unstable transition. The toning in ten years will most probably look quite different to what it does now. That is always the risk, even with beautifully multi hued toning. Such toning is extremely delicate.

Gas tight encapsulation of individual coins is probably the best way to maintain the toning at the current appearance of what you may prefer. In the long term, most slabs cannot provide the sort of environmental stability required.

Museums, for a variety of reasons, usually don't bother with with encapsulation, even for their most valuable coins. They just let them continue to patinate.
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 Posted 12/21/2016  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list
Here's one currently on ebay that in my opinion is definitely artificially toned.

(oh...and the asking price is a complete joke)

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/ICCS-CANADA-...AOSwImRYMjbi



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12/21/2016 9:48 pm
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 Posted 12/21/2016  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheCoinHunter to your friends list
There is nothing wrong with the 1971 coin. These coins (1971.72.73) were never encapsulated and depending how and where they were stored, they produced some very cool toning. I also wouldn't be so quick on the 58 either. I've seen some very dark toned scrap grade silver dollars brought into the store that were this dark as a result of years of varying storage and not AT. Although I agree that this is a $20 coin no matter how it looks. I also remember buying some specimen 1967 sets from Italy a few years back that were almost completely black on reverse with some spotty toning on obverse (facing the case side). All 20 sets looked very similar. I'll see if I can post some pics. Last but not least defining AT can sometimes be tricky. The last time I used the example of modern day RCM coins being displayed in my store windows that toned over time as a result. AT or not?
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 Posted 12/22/2016  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list
I have a roll of uncirculated 1958 dollars that I purchased in a plastic tube that are all dark on the rims and the top and bottom coins are dark like this one
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 Posted 12/22/2016  12:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TaeKenDo to your friends list
Here's one I've never seen before that I picked up in a lot. Rainbow edge toning but the surfaces are virtually color-free.

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 Posted 12/22/2016  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purelywasted to your friends list
Here is a penny from 1973 specimen set, I should take an updated photo to capture the color better, but it is actually purple. At the right angle, it is a neat coin. No AT, just a reaction to the case.

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 Posted 12/22/2016  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheCoinHunter to your friends list
So very few 73 specimen pennies survived in those red cases that they are actually very difficult to find in high grade and problem free.
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