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1867 Shield Nickel With Cud And Die Breaks

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 Posted 01/03/2017  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list

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but can anyone tell me why this was marked at $20 at my LCS?


OK - looked it up, with a combination of mintage of almost
29 Million, cleaned, uncertified, and the rim damage - 20$ might be the right price for someone that wanted to fill a hole in their Nickle or Type set album
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 Posted 01/03/2017  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
I really can't tell much from those scans.

It appears that $20 would be very cheap given the apparent grade.
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 Posted 01/03/2017  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Omegaraptor to your friends list
Die clashes, Cuds, and cracks were very common on these early nickel coins. Look at some 1865 3 cent nickels and you'll know.
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 Posted 01/03/2017  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinlover1899 to your friends list
Very decent price, I especially love the Cud on the reverse.
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 Posted 01/04/2017  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coindog to your friends list
I still think thats a Cud the die crack runs right up to it. If it was damage that would be an extremely convient place
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 Posted 01/04/2017  12:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dustin6 to your friends list
Not bad for the price
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 Posted 01/04/2017  08:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list

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And " Cud" seems to be a hit in circulation, not a die chip! If you notice the rim is included in the damage, a " Cud" is a broken piece of the die on the rim area and would not show the actual rim !

At first I too thought it was a rim/edge hit.
But then I noticed that it seems to be integrated with the die crack that runs above the "UN".
That puts me on the fence about it being a Cud.
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 Posted 01/04/2017  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list
It appears to be EF/AU and genuine. And yes, we cannot tell anything about the surface from the scans. You have it in hand. Is it cleaned?
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 Posted 01/04/2017  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arkie to your friends list
I assumed it was cleaned when I bought it, but I am no expert on cleaning. The color seems normal.
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 Posted 01/04/2017  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pinenut to your friends list
Looks like a great buy to me.
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 Posted 01/04/2017  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
The area above the N in UNITED is a Cud. Unless it is very harshly cleaned $20 is a great price for this coin. And as mention cracks and Cuds on these coins are very common. In fact it is difficult to find coins that DON'T have cracks/cuds and die chips.
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 Posted 01/04/2017  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
How true!
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 Posted 01/04/2017  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Debrajc to your friends list
I think $20 is a GREAT price for this coin.
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 Posted 01/04/2017  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Steele to your friends list
do you have a camera in your cell phone? try pictures with that usually they are worlds better than a scanner
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 Posted 01/04/2017  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list
I put together a collection of Shield nickels a few years ago. No doubt there are a lot of die cracks on these. Here are two 1867 Shield nickels struck from the same shattered die in early and late die states.

1867-Shield-Nickel-With-Cud-And-Die-Breaks
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