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Gallipoli

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 Posted 12/02/2005  06:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rggoodie to your friends list
LIM
FYI

Phar LAp the televison movie has been showing her almost every week for the last month.

Who know why?
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 Posted 12/02/2005  06:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lim118 to your friends list
Perhaps to remind our friends RG, that we were "robbed".....lol

Anyway, it looks like Phar Lap has been outstaged by the recent Melbourne Cup Winner....the only horse to win three successive Melbourne Cups. Would not surprise me in the least if a coin is minted to commemorate this horse's historic wins...
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 Posted 12/02/2005  09:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shatsi to your friends list
So this horse was poisoned? I'm a big horse racing fan!!
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 Posted 12/02/2005  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lim118 to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by shatsi

So this horse was poisoned? I'm a big horse racing fan!!



So it is rumoured/claimed shatsi....ask RG...he is a dinki di, he will know the whole story of how this horse collapsed in the States....
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 Posted 12/02/2005  5:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rggoodie to your friends list
Phar Lap was rumored to be the best race hourse ever to live

The movie being shown on American TV is rather a good story and well done

When Phar Lap was brought over to the states to race, there were warnings that an Australoian Hourse should not beat the "syndicate" (which really doesn't exist) horses.

PharLap did and under very trying circumstancs.

With this win being celebrated internationally, somehow Phar Lap was mysterously poisoned...

The end of Phar Lap and the beginning of many legends.

One interesting site is http://www.almanacnews.com/morgue/2...2.plap.shtml
a government site is
http://www.museum.vic.gov.au/pharlap/

another http://www.who2.com/pharlap.html

A lot of coin was bet on this hors on both sides
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 Posted 02/05/2006  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RenaL to your friends list
Recently I discovered that there are Turkish Gallipoli commemoratives too. 1990 issuses, golden and silver.

Gallipoli
Gallipoli



Here I posted them to my blog

Edited by RenaL
02/05/2006 7:37 pm
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 Posted 02/05/2006  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KLD to your friends list
I like them alot especially the gold one[:p]
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 Posted 02/05/2006  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list
What size are both of the coins? I too prefer the gold as it has more eye appeal!
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 Posted 02/05/2006  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RenaL to your friends list
Gold one is diameter 22 mm, weighs 7,216 gr. Siver one is larger; 38.61 mm in diameter and weighs 23.33 gr.

All the info I could find about these is in the link.
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 Posted 02/05/2006  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add toast to your friends list
Ok, I just gotta ask. I don't want this to sounds politicial but how is the Gallipoli battle viewed in Turkey? As a great victory?

I see the link says the coin is "commemorating the 75th anniversary of Gallipoli Victory" and "Coins depict the Gallipoli Martyrs Memorial and a Turkish soldier with the Flag in one hand and the rifle in another".

How many Turks died defending their country in that battle?

Australians are well educated about Anzac casualities in that battle and how we subjected our troops to another countries command and control, and the hugh mistakes that were made. You'd think we'd learn.

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 Posted 02/05/2006  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RenaL to your friends list
Yes, the Gallipoli defense is tought to be a victory in Turkey.
British-French-Anzac forces couldn't pass to Marmara Sea.
That's what is tought as what happened in 1915. I can not be so sure since I wasn't there, I didn't have a grandfather to tell me what happened there at first hand.

All I am sure is that Turkish soldiers really respect ANZACs and no grudge or whatever is kept against.
Many stgories are told how soldiers from two sides became friends etc.
I myself would like to know how the story is told from your side.


Maybe it can be a good idea to carry on in a different thread, I just wanted to show the coins.
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 Posted 02/05/2006  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KLD to your friends list
Toast here is my opinion.

I was born in Germany, I am a Europian at Heart and I live in Australia.

There is no Victory in War, everyone looses. To have victory is to avert war altogether.
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 Posted 02/05/2006  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RenaL to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by KLD

Toast here is my opinion.

I was born in Germany, I am a Europian at Heart and I live in Australia.

There is no Victory in War, everyone looses. To have victory is to avert war altogether.



Couldn't agree more.
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 Posted 02/06/2006  12:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yass to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by RenaL

Yes, the Gallipoli defense is tought to be a victory in Turkey.
British-French-Anzac forces couldn't pass to Marmara Sea.
That's what is tought as what happened in 1915. I can not be so sure since I wasn't there, I didn't have a grandfather to tell me what happened there at first hand.

All I am sure is that Turkish soldiers really respect ANZACs and no grudge or whatever is kept against.
Many stgories are told how soldiers from two sides became friends etc.
I myself would like to know how the story is told from your side.


Maybe it can be a good idea to carry on in a different thread, I just wanted to show the coins.

From my reading of events, I believe there was a great deal of respect between the Turkish and Australian soldiers.
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 Posted 02/06/2006  12:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list
RenaL, Thank you for the opportunity to see the other Turkish coins. Quite a few there that would really look good in my collection so it gives me something to look for down the road!
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