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2017 Lions Club International Silver Dollar

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 Posted 02/02/2017  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list
@nickelsearcher: There's no disputing the market data and the logic of your argument, but let me offer my perspective.

There are two new commemorative programs released each year. A silver dollar seems to be the default coin for each release, some add a CuNi clad half dollar and some offer a gold half eagle.

Purchased within the first 30 days of release, all of the coins are offered by the Mint at a discounted price. For the silver dollars, it has generally been about a $5 discount. Using the discounted 2017 silver dollars for my pricing example, it will cost me about $95.00 to acquire an uncirculated example of each of the two new coins. If I wait a year, I may be able to purchase them for less - let's say 25% less (though that's not always the case). In such a scenario, I will save myself less than $25.00.

That works out to be about $2.00 per month that I have to pay to enjoy the coins throughout the first year after their release. It's a time during which I can bring them to my local coin clubs for show-and-tell, possibly incorporate them in an exhibit at a local coin show and maybe even include them in one of the numismatic talks I give during the year. To me, $2.00 a month is a negligible amount to pay to take each new release "on the road" for a year.

If there were 10 or 20 releases each year, my thoughts might be different. But, at the current pace allowed by Congress (two programs per year), I feel the slight premium required by direct-from-the-Mint purchases is well worth it (at least for me).

If push comes to shove, however, I'll buy one less bottle of Pepsi each month and break even!


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 Posted 02/02/2017  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list
Good points for sure, both sides.

Also, when you buy on the secondary market, you run the risk of getting someone else's reject or cherry pick dumps. For coins that I missed out on the original offering for, I have no choice. Now of course that reasoning can bite you if you get a scratched coin direct from the mint but at least you can return it for a replacement.
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 Posted 02/02/2017  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list
I'm hitting the sack early tonight but did want to put up a picture of the shipping box that I received today with my Lions Club commemoratives. I'll take them out tomorrow or this weekend and get some photos of the coins.

The reason I'm posting this is because It looks like the Mint's fulfillment center finally found a reasonably-sized box for shipping one or two coins. In years (shipments) past, I would have gotten a box at least 4x as big filled with paper.

You can get the length and width reference from the quarter, but I didn't capture the thickness very well, which is only about an inch. I probably didn't need to redact everything like I did, but it was fun. Anyway I'm glad to see they're using less packaging where applicable.

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 Posted 02/03/2017  07:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list
Buy the coin to keep if you collect commems. Do not buy it if you plan to sell it. Great looking reverse and a lame obverse.

The 400,000 max between the two is the killer and also means that it will be on sale until 12/31/17 and never get close to that number.

I DO love the reverse..
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 Posted 02/03/2017  08:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SpaceMaNy0 to your friends list
I had to zoom in pretty far to see the $1. Figured that should be a little more prominent.
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 Posted 02/03/2017  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
Very nice, CelticKnot. Look forward to seeing the inside.
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Celtic Knox - Please breakdown what COTY is Thanks goldnugget
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COTY = Coin Of The Year

(Hey look, I can help someone by answering a question! Go me!)
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 Posted 02/05/2017  12:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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A look at a proof example.
Very nice!
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 Posted 02/05/2017  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list

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If push comes to shove, however, I'll buy one less bottle of Pepsi each month and break even!


I concede to the deductive logic that arrived at this conclusion from our master collector commems.

Clearly acknowledge that the pursuit of these coins as a hobbyist is not about making money ... it's the collecting passion and joy for the coins that drives us onward.

Otherwise ... why would I be collecting worn-out coins with truly little market value?

The original point that most of the modern US Mint products can be obtained on the after-market at less than original cost is true ... and should be considered by every collector pursuing these with the realization that the difference is a bottle of Pepsi every month.

David
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Received my Uncirculated version of this Beauty, ( the reverse ) . It is nicked and found more than just a speck of dirt under the holder and in the light, being the Unc, there are nicks and chips on both sides, back He goes....... :(
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 Posted 02/08/2017  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list
Ok, so it took me a little longer than I had expected to get a couple photos up here. But you, know...life. Anyway, here is a side-by-side of the proof and uncirculated:

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That proof reverse is cool...
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This makes me wish we had big dollar coins circulating again.
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Ok, so it took me a little longer than I had expected to get a couple photos up here. But you, know...life. Anyway, here is a side-by-side of the proof and uncirculated:
Better late than never.

Very nice!
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