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Recent Quarter Find Is It Real And Grade

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 Posted 02/01/2017  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
If you have doubt as to the authenticity of your coins you might as well send them in for TPG'ing to eliminate that doubt. Coins like what you have posted are highly counterfeited and need to be slabbed to be marketable.

(Unless of course you are just posting known counterfeits here to get differences in opinions.)
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 Posted 02/01/2017  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add still lookin to your friends list
I actually had no intention of selling them. Of course both coins could be counterfeit. That is why I posted them. I really think that it just a slight chance though. Still Lookin
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 Posted 02/01/2017  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ErrorCoins222 to your friends list

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...These are no doubt fakes, not good ones either, look at face details, the mushy hair and reverse leaves. And the marks @the D...

Still lookin, that mushy tail feathers, indicates a poor cast copy, doubt its even been pressed!


The details look okay to me. The details of genuine coins are often "mushy". The tail feathers especially, are often soft on genuine examples. And there are not casting bubbles.

There are die flow lines, which suggest that it was struck, not cast. The color looks good and has toned like silver would.

I couldn't tell you anything about the mint mark though. It may or may not be an alteration.

As for grade, I'd Say AU Details, cleaned. Large scrape on Washington's cheek as well.
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 Posted 02/01/2017  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add still lookin to your friends list
In hand it does not look cleaned. It appears that the reverse was setting down on a hard surface and the obverse was more open to the atmosphere. But it may have been cleaned. The other coins with this one were mostly BU with very little toning. Still Lookin
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 Posted 02/01/2017  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list
Not an expert on this but -- I don't like the look of the leaves on the west side.

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 Posted 02/01/2017  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CGCoins to your friends list
I do not believe the close up of the mint mark is of the same coin.

Zooming into the D on the first picture there is no detail in the D, its just a blob, but very sharp in the close up. Plus there is a gash in the top left that does not show in the larger photo.
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 Posted 02/01/2017  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
I don't know anything about these but it doesn't look cleaned to me. The MM appears in a depression, like many genuine Lincolns I've seen..the internet is a friend for getting some ideas on this key quarter. Look through the images on PCGS.com and ha.com and compare. I'm sure there's also plenty of info on this site and others. If you think it's real, send that puppy to PCGS.
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 Posted 02/01/2017  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add still lookin to your friends list
They are indeed the same coin. The first photo was taken with an old worn out Nikon camera. The second was taken with an AmScope on a microscope. There is different lighting sources on each. If you study the die markers on each photo you will see that they are the same.
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 Posted 02/02/2017  08:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
The pictures are GREAT BTW!
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 Posted 02/02/2017  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chipjones to your friends list
not the same coin. first pic no damage to the right of MM
second pic shows damage to the right of the MM
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 Posted 02/02/2017  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list
They said it was the same coin --- what is the point of claiming it isn't? What purpose would it serve someone to ask questions about the authenticity of a coin, then post pictures of different coins?
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 Posted 02/02/2017  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Druu to your friends list
I can see why people don't think it's the same coin. The mint mark is definitely off. But lookin has explained that it's a different lens. And the dings on the leaves and stems of the wreath match up. That die crack or scratch between the leaf and stem is there in the first picture too, but blurry, lending credence to the camera explanation.
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 Posted 02/03/2017  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
100% genuine 1932-D Washington. Grade is approximately AU53. Very, very nice coin & a great find.
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 Posted 02/05/2017  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list
I posted before that the leaves on the west branch looked wrong -- so I took another look today and -- honestly -- I don't know what I was seeing before. I must have been focused on a shadow or something. Sorry about that. It looks fine to me now.

However, I think I need to learn to take a break from the screen.
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