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Coop knows what he's talking about--this isn't a Wide AM. Apparently, at least one 1996 Wide AM has been found, but this coin is not one of them. Your photos are adequate to determine this is a normal Close AM.
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Khasil, you have the RDV 007 FG. It's important to look not only at the serifs, but also at the spacing between the initials and the memorial. Yours has the large gap of a CAM cent. Looking closer at the AMERICA on your coin, you'll see that the left leg of the M is thinner than the right leg, possibly from die polishing. This may be creating the illusion of a larger gap. Another marker is the placement of A in STATES. In CAM reverses, the A is closer to the T to its right -- that is evident in your coin. @Thulium I believe there was one reported 1996 CAM, but the owner claims to have been robbed outside of a coin show before ever getting it authenticated. (?) http://www.lincolncentresource.com/...6WideAM.html
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Thulium did you read the ? I asked, I asked about fg, if you do not know the answer let someone else look at it and yes I do know that coop knows everything about coins that is why I am asking and if it is not on the list or it was not found yet does not mean you can not try to find it and/or present it to the board, or that's what I thought. thank you.
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thank you Druu for your reply I may agree with everything, except this is not fg for rdv-007, I do not think so.
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The normal from both mints were made by the same master die:  Die wear may have affected your coin, but note on the right side of the 'M' you coin looks just like the right side location for that letter. The wide 'AM's the 'M' is in the center: 
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Thank you coop, thank you all. thanks.
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But I still never got the answer is why is "FG" on my coin matching the "FG" on WAM coin, but that's ok.
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Another area to examine is the "A" in STATES. It is farther to the right on the Close AM, and centered on the Wide AM. Looking at your images, it appears that the A is not centered. Sometimes, on a polished die, or a weaker strike, the FG can be hard to see clearly. 
Edited by cwb 03/04/2017 11:03 pm
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thank you. next time I find something i'ii make sure it's perfect or I toss it. thanks.
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Very few older Lincoln cents will grade MS-70, error or not.
There are some great rare coins out there, keep searching and you will find some of them. It's the odds game, the more you search, the more you will find. We all find some "maybes" along the way, it's always a good idea to get a second opinion when we're not sure.
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Quote:But I still never got the answer is why is "FG" on my coin matching the "FG" on WAM coin, but that's ok. Coop and others have shown with several clear and informative diagrams--the shape and position of FG does not match a Wide AM. It's a normal Close AM cent struck for circulation. I actually do know the answer, even if it's not the one expected.  Your photos are a little hard to make out, so I've blown up the area near the FG. The FG's shape and position should be compared to the photos Coop has provided. In addition, there is a tell-tale design detail that's only seen on the normal Close AM cents--a rectangular block which sits above the base of the Memorial. (yellow arrow). 
Edited by Thulium 03/04/2017 11:57 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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The area with the yellow arrow is on all the RDV-05-7 dies:  The strongest one is on the RDV-007, which it what your coin is. It is a normal reverse for that year.
Edited by coop 03/05/2017 11:55 am
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Thanks for posting those pics.  I try to avoid confusion, that feature is stronger on Close AM business strikes. So friends and I spend a lot of time looking for Wide AM LMCs and those Close AM proofs. It's often useful to see every subtle difference. So I'll be taking a few pictures myself to have these diagnostic differences on hand. 
Edited by Thulium 03/05/2017 2:23 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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I use a lot of images from the PCGS COINFACTS Site as they are very large. Some of the two sides of the coin are 6,000 pixels wide. They are handy when you need to compare something with a normal coin.
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Yep, I sometimes also use photos from Heritage--just to study markers on various varieties. If I have a variety, I try to take my own pictures. I've got a 36mpx dSLR with a very sharp macro lens.
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