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1996 Penny Is This WAM.

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 Posted 03/03/2017  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Thulium to your friends list
Coop knows what he's talking about--this isn't a Wide AM. Apparently, at least one 1996 Wide AM has been found, but this coin is not one of them. Your photos are adequate to determine this is a normal Close AM.
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 Posted 03/03/2017  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Druu to your friends list
Khasil, you have the RDV 007 FG. It's important to look not only at the serifs, but also at the spacing between the initials and the memorial. Yours has the large gap of a CAM cent. Looking closer at the AMERICA on your coin, you'll see that the left leg of the M is thinner than the right leg, possibly from die polishing. This may be creating the illusion of a larger gap. Another marker is the placement of A in STATES. In CAM reverses, the A is closer to the T to its right -- that is evident in your coin.

@Thulium I believe there was one reported 1996 CAM, but the owner claims to have been robbed outside of a coin show before ever getting it authenticated. (?) http://www.lincolncentresource.com/...6WideAM.html
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 Posted 03/03/2017  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add khasil to your friends list
Thulium did you read the ? I asked, I asked about fg, if you do not know the answer let someone else look at it and yes I do know that coop knows everything about coins that is why I am asking and if it is not on the list or it was not found yet does not mean you can not try to find it and/or present it to the board, or that's what I thought. thank you.
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 Posted 03/03/2017  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add khasil to your friends list
thank you Druu for your reply I may agree with everything, except this is not fg for rdv-007, I do not think so.
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 Posted 03/03/2017  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
The normal from both mints were made by the same master die:
1996-Penny-Is-This-WAM.
Die wear may have affected your coin, but note on the right side of the 'M' you coin looks just like the right side location for that letter. The wide 'AM's the 'M' is in the center:
1996-Penny-Is-This-WAM.
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 Posted 03/03/2017  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add khasil to your friends list
Thank you coop, thank you all. thanks.
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 Posted 03/04/2017  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add khasil to your friends list
But I still never got the answer is why is "FG" on my coin matching the "FG" on WAM coin, but that's ok.
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 Posted 03/04/2017  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list
Another area to examine is the "A" in STATES. It is farther to the right on the Close AM, and centered on the Wide AM.

Looking at your images, it appears that the A is not centered.

Sometimes, on a polished die, or a weaker strike, the FG can be hard to see clearly.



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 Posted 03/04/2017  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add khasil to your friends list
thank you. next time I find something i'ii make sure it's perfect or I toss it. thanks.
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 Posted 03/04/2017  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list
Very few older Lincoln cents will grade MS-70, error or not.

There are some great rare coins out there, keep searching and you will find some of them. It's the odds game, the more you search, the more you will find. We all find some "maybes" along the way, it's always a good idea to get a second opinion when we're not sure.
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 Posted 03/04/2017  11:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Thulium to your friends list

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But I still never got the answer is why is "FG" on my coin matching the "FG" on WAM coin, but that's ok.
Coop and others have shown with several clear and informative diagrams--the shape and position of FG does not match a Wide AM. It's a normal Close AM cent struck for circulation. I actually do know the answer, even if it's not the one expected.

Your photos are a little hard to make out, so I've blown up the area near the FG. The FG's shape and position should be compared to the photos Coop has provided. In addition, there is a tell-tale design detail that's only seen on the normal Close AM cents--a rectangular block which sits above the base of the Memorial. (yellow arrow).

1996-Penny-Is-This-WAM.
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 Posted 03/05/2017  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
The area with the yellow arrow is on all the RDV-05-7 dies:
1996-Penny-Is-This-WAM.
The strongest one is on the RDV-007, which it what your coin is. It is a normal reverse for that year.
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 Posted 03/05/2017  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Thulium to your friends list
Thanks for posting those pics. I try to avoid confusion, that feature is stronger on Close AM business strikes.
So friends and I spend a lot of time looking for Wide AM LMCs and those Close AM proofs. It's often useful to see every subtle difference.
So I'll be taking a few pictures myself to have these diagnostic differences on hand.
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 Posted 03/05/2017  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
I use a lot of images from the PCGS COINFACTS Site as they are very large. Some of the two sides of the coin are 6,000 pixels wide. They are handy when you need to compare something with a normal coin.
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 Posted 03/05/2017  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Thulium to your friends list
Yep, I sometimes also use photos from Heritage--just to study markers on various varieties. If I have a variety, I try to take my own pictures. I've got a 36mpx dSLR with a very sharp macro lens.
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