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1943 "Copper" Wheat Penny

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 Posted 04/16/2017  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list
Hi Cougar = The toning of your specimen smacks of a plated steel cent. As noted, we see these pop up frequently here and get a number of looks. Although out of focus, the bow tie appears to be showing steel/zinc through the thin copper plate. Same is true of the reverse C in CENT and the rim.

If you don't have a scale, you can create a see-saw scale with a battery, tape, and popsicle stick. Play with the scale where it balances two copper cents then replace one with your specimen. If it's copper, the scale should balance. Otherwise, you will know if you have a copper plated specimen.

As noted, there are a number of fakes out there that are copper. At this point, you need to familiarize yourself with die sets and get a professional assessment. Most LCS's are probably not capable of such an assessment. Due to their rarity, a narrow group of experts exist to authenticate. But a number of folks here have skills to spot fakes...even very good ones.

Hoping you have one, but the odds are against it being the real deal.
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 Posted 04/16/2017  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list
They have been making these since the forties and even ran newspaper ads for copper plated ones in the fifties.

It would be very nice if it were genuine.

Please keep us informed as to what you find out, even if it turns out to be not a genuine error cent.
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 Posted 04/16/2017  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 08Blond to your friends list
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 Posted 04/16/2017  11:56 pm  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list
@Cougarkb

I'm certainly glad you came here for thoughts and input. At this point, all of the useful suggestions have been stated. Don't assume anything based on the odds of finding a genuine piece. Approach this very seriously as I'm sure you are and be very thorough with tests.

If it does pass the tests, then it needs to be authenticated. You should use a recognized TPG - PCGS, NGC or ANACS.

I'm in no way suggesting it's genuine, but from what I can see, there's nothing telling me it's obviously fake. However, I'm no expert.

I hope this turns out to be a huge score for you!
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 Posted 04/17/2017  01:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list
The obverse is too out of focus to examine properly, and there is something about the reverse that just doesn't look right. I can't quite put my finger on it yet, maybe the wheat heads?
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 Posted 04/17/2017  02:17 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list
I created this side-by-side of the OP's coin (right) and a 1944 cent I have (left) to see if there are any discrepancies. I don't know if there is any mint-made difference between the dies of these two years or if I should compare the OP's coin to a 1942 instead.

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In this comparison, I do see a few differences. I'll let others compare and offer opinions if this is even a fair comparison at all. Maybe I should have used a steel 1943.
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 Posted 04/17/2017  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Weight would be the next necessary step. Also a clearer image of the obverse. The tail of the 3 is not very sharp. (compare with the fake copper plated one below) I've seen copper coin put in with steel cents and some copper transfers to the surface. But they would always stick to a magnet. I would hang onto this one for now till we get some more information.
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 Posted 04/17/2017  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Potbellypub to your friends list
Here is a 43 in decent shape of it helps which I'm sure someone has a nicer example but anything to help .

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 Posted 04/17/2017  2:21 pm  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list

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In this comparison, I do see a few differences. I'll let others compare and offer opinions if this is even a fair comparison at all. Maybe I should have used a steel 1943.


Since the copper 1943 cents were struck with 1943 dies, yes, you should have compared the subject coin to a 1943 cent (and one of equal grade).
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 Posted 03/28/2021  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 829729742 to your friends list
looks real to me
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 Posted 03/28/2021  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Counterfeit example:
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 Posted 03/28/2021  1:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list
Just by my eyes, it looks quite off.

As mentioned from the others, tests are needed to be sure if it's legitimate.

My vote is no but who knows.
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 Posted 03/28/2021  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jasper62 to your friends list

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Well since this thread is 4 years old and the OP never came back with an answer I assume it was fake. Otherwise he would have been back the second he found out it was real
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 Posted 03/28/2021  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list
Another old post revived for no reason.
Been getting a few of these lately.
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 Posted 03/28/2021  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
I took Spruett001 photo and make some lines. I think it is fake coin. Up to you to judge.


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