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Posted 06/09/2017 12:51 pm
Lightw4re ... Technically, there can't be different coins and have them all be examples.... each variety comes from a specific die and, hopefully, has some other markers to properly classify it as that "variety".. You can have many examples of a 6 that has a bigger gap than the gaps at 1-8 and and 8-9, but there can only be one "far 6" from a book.
The first coin that ICCS certified as a "far 6" was what we called on CCRS a far, far high 6, rotated slightly CCW. I initially ID'd it for the owner from Hamilton, because we had been discussing that type irregularity for well over a year... it was an example of the widest gap and most offset. The owner gave it to Rick Simpson, a well-known Hamilton-area dealer who was also VP of CAND at the time and also the Editor of Trends. He hand delivered it to Bill Cross at Charlton who hand delivered it to Brian at ICCS. It became the very first 1896 "far 6" to be certified (it was XF) and that specific die became the "standard" and any coin thus certified as a "far 6" had to EXACTLY match that first one. The one that is in Zoell and the one on the CaC page IS NOT what has been accepted as a 'far 6".
When Louis started CCCS, he would cert any '96 that had a 9-6 gap wider than the 8-9 gap as a "far 6". ICCS stopped certing the "far 6" almost 5 years ago and Charlton removed it from the front of the Charlton guide because so many people were confused about what a "far 6" meant .. how far was far. The same thing has happened to the 1859 "low 9" or will in short order. How low is low? What was the EXACT position of the one that started it off and is accepted as the standard? There are approx 200 Reverse 1859 dies and each working die was hand-punched. That means that, technically, there are 200 different positions for the 9 to be placed. That's why there are specific markers for 1859 DP 1-5, 2 types of 9/6 and 3 types of TP's and every other numismatic variety that has been properly published. Varieties are very specific and, if everyone doesn't know that, then the word needs to get out .. I've tried for nearly 20 years. The "far 6" misnomer has run amuck .. just take a look on ebay when you look for "1896 far 6". You have everything from very close to far, far and high. It sends chills down my spine and I shake my head to then go into the "advanced" section of the same description and see how newbies and neophytes have wasted good money on a common coin, when you look at what has actually "sold" under that description. The CaC ID page just continues to muddy the water.
The first coin that ICCS certified as a "far 6" was what we called on CCRS a far, far high 6, rotated slightly CCW. I initially ID'd it for the owner from Hamilton, because we had been discussing that type irregularity for well over a year... it was an example of the widest gap and most offset. The owner gave it to Rick Simpson, a well-known Hamilton-area dealer who was also VP of CAND at the time and also the Editor of Trends. He hand delivered it to Bill Cross at Charlton who hand delivered it to Brian at ICCS. It became the very first 1896 "far 6" to be certified (it was XF) and that specific die became the "standard" and any coin thus certified as a "far 6" had to EXACTLY match that first one. The one that is in Zoell and the one on the CaC page IS NOT what has been accepted as a 'far 6".
When Louis started CCCS, he would cert any '96 that had a 9-6 gap wider than the 8-9 gap as a "far 6". ICCS stopped certing the "far 6" almost 5 years ago and Charlton removed it from the front of the Charlton guide because so many people were confused about what a "far 6" meant .. how far was far. The same thing has happened to the 1859 "low 9" or will in short order. How low is low? What was the EXACT position of the one that started it off and is accepted as the standard? There are approx 200 Reverse 1859 dies and each working die was hand-punched. That means that, technically, there are 200 different positions for the 9 to be placed. That's why there are specific markers for 1859 DP 1-5, 2 types of 9/6 and 3 types of TP's and every other numismatic variety that has been properly published. Varieties are very specific and, if everyone doesn't know that, then the word needs to get out .. I've tried for nearly 20 years. The "far 6" misnomer has run amuck .. just take a look on ebay when you look for "1896 far 6". You have everything from very close to far, far and high. It sends chills down my spine and I shake my head to then go into the "advanced" section of the same description and see how newbies and neophytes have wasted good money on a common coin, when you look at what has actually "sold" under that description. The CaC ID page just continues to muddy the water.
. I have not seen better then yours. Puts ever other coin to shame up against it.
