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Valued Member
United States
115 Posts |
I personally would not have used the flash
This closely without a diffuser.
It does the sale of coin an injustice.
On the other hand some of the 3rd party grading seems
To have gotten a little crazy?
It's a catch 22, you obviously want to buy slabbed coins to have the security
But on the other hand often times the grading seems to have been
conducted by a 6 year old.
This particular coin looks extremely scratched
& polished.
Hummm.
I guess we'll never know?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Hover your cursor over the image to zoom in. Hovering the cursor doesn't do anything. I right click and open the image in a new tab so I can enlarge it. (Actually in this case it opens large and badly pixelated. I have to reduce it til the pixelation is reduced and by that point it isn't much larger than the original image.) I will say it does look like graffiti has been removed from the right hand field and the job poorly smoothed. Edited by Conder101
06/08/2017 10:33 am
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3479 Posts |
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Hovering the cursor doesn't do anything.
Ok, I must have a magical computer or something. When I view ebay listings, if I hover my curser over the image a square box appears in the middle of the photo stating 'mouse over to zoom - click to enlarge' Everything outside of the square then turns a lighter grey color. When I move my curser over the square the image becomes enlarged. Does anyone else get this effect with their computers? |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
937 Posts |
my computer does the same thing. Questions for you... You are so upset that a coin you see as details has been straight graded when you obviously know how to grade and what you are looking for in the coin. Why? How do collect, mostly raw or mostly on TPG, etc.,etc... |
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CCF Advertiser
United States
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I do not think the cleaning so so bad that any TPG would details it. A strictly original coin that old is very rare and they'd be detailsing almost all of them. The best you can hope for in Seated dollars is an old cleaning. This one is, I think, a bit too recent or my taste. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Does anyone else get this effect with their computers? This hover-over function may not work on some of the older or none-updated browsers, so it may work on yours but not on someone else's computer. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1659 Posts |
I believe your expectations from TPGs production workers is too high. They are, by all accounts, flogged around the fleet if they don't meet their hourly rate. If you've taken four or five minutes to inspect a coin in a holder, you've spent 10 times as long looking at it than the grader did. Knowing how rushed these folks are is valuable info when buying or selling slabbed coins.
Buy the coin, not the holder.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I suspect PCGS viewed most of the scratches as the result of die polishing.
Hence not a cleaned coin.
Therefore gradeable as original surfaces. Those are not die polishing lines. And the color is indicative of a cleaned coin. This coin has been harshly cleaned. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Totally agree - whatever is going on here, the coin belies the grade.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
887 Posts |
(Nothing against the poster of this quote, or those who had the same opinion) Quote:
It's clearly a details coin that has been market graded. So because a coin has marketability, they'll overlook things like a noticeable cleaning? If those marks were on a 1932-D Washington, or a 1909-S VDB, or a '16-D Merc, or a [insert your favorite coin here], do you think they would have overlooked the cleaning? I doubt it. Heck, how many times have you seen an "improperly cleaned details" graded coin that was arguably an original (circulated) surface coin? If they're not going to hit cleaned coins as being cleaned because there is a market component to that coin, then maybe they should start taking age into consideration. a 150 year old coin that you can see something on is in pretty good shape for it's age, right? What happens when that coin's interest fades? Will the TPG call it back, and add the "Improperly Cleaned Details" grading comment to the slab? Nope. Or what if another of this coin is graded when it isn't a very marketable coin, will it then be hit with the cleaning? My understanding is that TPG's exist to assess a coin's condition without bias. Obviously, that is not the case. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
17884 Posts |
The hovering trick works for me on some ebay auctions not all of them. It doesn't work for me on the one in question. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4211 Posts |
Not off of us have coin shows and coin shops we can just go to on a whim.
It would be nice tho!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7375 Posts |
Another Seated type coin gets a pass on cleaning. Bust coins get passes too.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1346 Posts |
Seller's feedback would keep me away.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7621 Posts |
I've said it before and I'll keep saying it 'till I die:
Coins like this that are submitted by common smucks like us will get a details grade most of the time. On the other hand, Huge Auction Companies sending in coins like this will usually get a straight grade.
Grading is NOT anonymous! The grading companies cater to the hands that feed them.
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