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Would You Buy A Classic Proof That Has Been Circulated?

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 Posted 06/19/2017  11:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jolteon1698 to your friends list
I'm getting it for a few hundred less than that price
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 Posted 06/19/2017  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
NGC shows a value of $600 for this date in PR-58. A business-strike 1872 AU-58 lists for $485. So, the proof likely costs more than the equivalent MS piece.
For less money I'd look for a choice AU-58 which likely would be easier to sell in the future.
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 Posted 06/20/2017  12:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin197 to your friends list
Actually, now I am looking to buy a PF 58 or PF 60 Morgan. Sadly, that's all I can afford as a YN.
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 Posted 06/20/2017  01:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add perfessor to your friends list
I love the look of this coin and it has great detail. But am I missing something? Maybe it's the picture but it doesn't look proof to me. It doesn't have a mirror finish like I would expect. Or did they just make matte proofs back then? How do you know this is actually a proof coin (and I don't mean because the slab says so)?
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 Posted 06/20/2017  06:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jolteon1698 to your friends list
The dealer said there is limited mirror finishes due to the fact that it is circulated, which makes sense. In this next picture you can see some luster and maybe some traces of the mirror finish?



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 Posted 06/20/2017  06:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jolteon1698 to your friends list
Also, the coin has toned
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 Posted 06/20/2017  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NH collector to your friends list
About 40 years ago, I bought a Gobrect Dollar, maybe a VG at best, with a hole in it. At least I had one, one with character. I enjoyed it, I didn't baby it. I even dropped it once or twice. At some coin shows, I would keep it in my pocket, no envelope or flip. I sold it. I'll bet it survives today in a slab, kept in a bank vault, and maybe looked at twice a year. I at least had fun with it.
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 Posted 06/20/2017  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin197 to your friends list
How much was that Gobreht dollar?
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 Posted 06/23/2017  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jolteon1698 to your friends list
Another one I was considering



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 Posted 06/23/2017  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chevelle7167 to your friends list
If it was a Seated proof, I most certainly would if the price was right
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 Posted 06/24/2017  05:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I think that ANY collector of U.S. classic coins would.
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 Posted 06/24/2017  07:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list
It's interesting that proof Trade dollars don't often cost much more than their MS counterparts. That one looks nice.

How do you determine value on a circulated proof? I don't get to see the greysheet or similar listings as a rule.
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 Posted 06/24/2017  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jolteon1698 to your friends list
I don't know if there is any easy way to determine price. Usually I look at PCGS recent auction history and then ballpark what I'd like to pay.

This will probably be my last big proof purchase, and the Trade dollar will be the center of my collection
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 Posted 06/24/2017  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add herbaby to your friends list
That is a beautiful coin. As GR58 said, there are lots of reasons why a person MIGHT buy a circulated proof.

Now that I think of it, "circulated proof " sounds kind of like an oxymoron.
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 Posted 06/24/2017  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billjones to your friends list
My usual answer would be, "No," unless it is a Proof only issue that is wicked expensive in the as struck grades. The trouble is that there is often very little of a price discount for the circulated pieces because the supply is usually very thin.

The only circulated Proof that I have ever bought was a slightly worn 1836 Gobrecht dollar when I was younger. NGC didn't agree with me. They called it "PR-60." I later soold it for a nice profit when I bought an upgrade for that slot in my collection.
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