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Why Doesn't America Get On Board With A $2 Coin?

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 Posted 06/30/2017  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list
One step at a time.

1. Let's get rid of the Cent and go to nickel breakage (and strike the nickel in a cost-effective metal).

2. Let's get rid of the $1 bill and go to the $1 coin.
Probably have to redesign the $1 coin so they won't get mixed up with quarters.

3. When #2 is accomplished then release all the $2 bills that are getting stale at the Fed Reserve Banks.
That should lower complaints about $1 coins being pocket busters.

4. THEN after people have gotten used to those changes MAYBE a $2 coin would be possible.
And poly notes are a quite reasonable idea (although the BEP's trouble with the newest $100 note means it would take a while).
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 Posted 06/30/2017  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpsned to your friends list
For the same reasons the two-dollar bill and the dollar coins didn't work: People are set in their ways and are uninterested.
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 Posted 06/30/2017  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
Use of anything other than cards declines steadily. Even at places where you would expect coin or currency use, such as gas/convenient outlets, that also see a continuous drop in coin and currency use.

If you watch folks who use coins and currency you may note two facts. First, when c@c is used, in a cashier line with other customers behind, those other customers groan because it takes more time to process that sale. In the "old days" it was the check that got that reaction. But checks are so rarely used today.

Second, the number of people who count their change, even if it includes currency, is perhaps 20% - one in five. Most just stuff it in their pockets or purses, and move on.

These numbers are from a good friend of mine who manages a group of 16 Kwik Trips. Numbers will vary in other parts of the country, I am sure, but the key points remain true, I'm also pretty sure.

C&C is becoming a thing of the past. Fighting about what will be used is fruitless. I can't imagine why they could possibly give a reason for the gazillion cents minted each year. The $2 bills, when used, often require management approval as the clerks think they are counterfeit, most cash registers don't even have a space for 50¢ or dollar coins, as they are so infrequently used. The last spot on the cash drawer is for keys and for "weird coins".

My friend helps with a lot of cash outs, and he loves that weird coin space.
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 Posted 06/30/2017  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alex12780 to your friends list
Because it's easier to do math with 1,5,10,20,50,100 for most people. Also because change hardly ever gets used meaning there would be tons of $2 coins laying around like there are for $1 coins.
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 Posted 06/30/2017  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nutmeg to your friends list
Americans can't even use the $1 coins, never mind $2 coins.
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 Posted 06/30/2017  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
A two dollar coin is about as silly as a square wheel.
The Australian $2 is smaller and lighter than the $1 coin, and BOTH are very popular, and in very common circulation.
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 Posted 06/30/2017  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add n9jig to your friends list
By the time they get a $2 coin figured out coins will be obsolete anyway. As it is they are really only used to make change. They should just stop minting the penny altogether and life will get so much simpler.

Next, in a few years, eliminate the nickel and quarter. The half is already functionally obsolete anyway. Just have a dime to make change with and retain the paper money until the end of currency, which could be seen in the next decade.
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 Posted 06/30/2017  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list
Honestly I wish the penny would just stop being minted. They really don't make any sense...pun intended! People don't bother picking them up off the floor if they drop them, people put them in the penny tray at the checkout if they don't want them, and they just don't have any buying power.
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 Posted 06/30/2017  1:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
Why would we consider a $2 coin when we make a $1 coin that doesn't even get used?

Until we discontinue making the $1 greenback no dollar coin will succeed.
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 Posted 06/30/2017  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list
I have always thought that it was about politics; the senator whose state makes the paper for the currency will not allow it to be "cut" from production so that we will have to use the dollar coins which are sitting in storage that other senator greased some palms to create.
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 Posted 06/30/2017  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
Cutting over 50% of the BEP's production by eliminating the one dollar bill does not bode well for Crane & Co, the BEP Printers Union and the up and down support agencies.

Our Congress Critters are stupid, but they aren't stupid enough to cut off the hands that feed them!
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 Posted 06/30/2017  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

Quote:
1. Let's get rid of the Cent and go to nickel breakage (and strike the nickel in a cost-effective metal).

2. Let's get rid of the $1 bill and go to the $1 coin.
Absolutely!


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Probably have to redesign the $1 coin so they won't get mixed up with quarters.
Wait. What? Did we time-warp to 1979? I think the golden dollar is just fine.
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 Posted 06/30/2017  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
No real chance at getting a $2 coin accepted until you get the $1 coins accepted.

No chance of getting the $1 coin accepted until the $1 note is discontinued.

Reduction in the printing of the $1 note would be largely offset by an increase I the production of the $2 note.

The 50% reduction at the BEP would not occur until both the $1 and $2 notes were withdrawn and the $1 and $2 coins were accepted.
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 Posted 07/01/2017  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Debrajc to your friends list
I don't think younger men and women even carry cash around anymore.

My son and daughter in law use their debit cards for everything.
Including sodas from a vending machine.
Drives me crazy they never have any cash. I ALWAYS have SOME cash in my wallet.
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 Posted 07/02/2017  12:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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No real chance at getting a $2 coin accepted until you get the $1 coins accepted.
No chance of getting the $1 coin accepted until the $1 note is discontinued.
Reduction in the printing of the $1 note would be largely offset by an increase I the production of the $2 note.
The 50% reduction at the BEP would not occur until both the $1 and $2 notes were withdrawn and the $1 and $2 coins were accepted.
Worth repeating.
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