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Formerly nancyc
Australia
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Values for both varieties of 1922 Pennies are all lumped in together in Renniks, not really mentioned in the value part of Maccas, so probably the same.
life is a mystery to be lived not a problem to be solved
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Someone here told me to look for the Calcutta obverse, and I found one at the last show! I don't know if it's valuable...it's just fun finding stuff! 
Edited by KurtS 04/25/2008 03:43 am
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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damn, I just bought McDonalds off ebay, but I'll live without knowing. I'd say calcutta is worth more though
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Valued Member
Australia
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I have been told this is the best way to sought your 1922 varieties. quote:Sort by obverse type - Indian/ London = 2 piles. On the Indian dies, check for CBL reverse and FBL reverse = 2 piles. Now check obverse lettering on each of these new piles. Could be FBL / CBL obverse =now = 4 piles of Indians. now for London. separate as above and get your 4 piles. Put a normal date one aside - you should have 9 piles now. Then separate a wide date , an extra wide date and a wide date with spike on tail of nine/ over-date. That should make 12 different distinct types. If that isn't enough there are 1922 Indian die first 2 tilts left, upsets, single prong spurs, Double prong spurs, and triple prong spurs, Cuds, die-cracks, dots and possibly many more. The Indian or Calcutta Obverse is thought to make up 20% of the total mintage of 1922 pennies. Is at minimum, a very confusing year
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Farnbycoins, wow--that's quite a assortment! Thanks!  Now I'll need to lookup what FBL and CBL mean 
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Valued Member
Australia
206 Posts |
Quote: Now I'll need to look up what FBL and CBL mean FBL= Flat base lettering, CBL= Curve base lettering. Inadequate striking pressure, and/or, inadequate master die pressure when making a hub, will result in die fill problems, that are observed as curved base letters. The same phenomena is observed on USA Bust dollars (so called bifurcated lettering)
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Valued Member
Australia
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Getting back on topic, I have always wondered why the 39 roo has a far higher book price than the 44 Half penny. Is it simply because it is the first roo half penny, with a much lower mintage than the 39 COA reverse? The 44 has a lower mintage than the 39 roo, so has me thinking, was the 39 roo reverse exported for metal value at some time? By the way KurtS, very nice coin, as nancyc said, you could easily give it a Fine+ or F15 grade.
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 United States
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Farnbycoins, thanks for all the great info!  Comparing the '39 Roo 1/2d to the '44, perhaps there's higher visibility/demand due to it being a transitional variety? 
Edited by KurtS 05/16/2008 1:36 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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what does the 1d or 2d or 1/2d always mean?
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Australia
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Quote: I have always wondered why the 39 roo has a far higher book price than the 44 Half penny This I have wondered too. At any given time you can find a reasonable condition '39 roo, but try and find a '44.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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farnbey is probably right, exported for metal..
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Valued Member
Australia
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Maybe spedward, though is at best, an uneducated guess on my part. Maybe nancy and kurt were on the right track with the early Rennicks lower mintage figures. This would have initially given the 39 roo the lowest George V1 mintage. This then makes me wonder, why wasn't the value rectified when the mintage figure was corrected? Maybe this is where past collector interest, and the transitional variety interests come into play  . Perhaps the sandpit or other expert member will come along and set this straight for us.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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G'day, quote: "what does the 1d or 2d or 1/2d always mean?" I feel old ... what we called a penny was, historically, descended from an ancient Roman coin, called a "denarius". This was abbreviated to "d". Very confusing when I was a boy. Because of a similar history, the abbreviation for pound (= 20 shillings) was "L", for "Librum" (or similar). Shilling was abbreviated to "s", but not because shilling began with "s". No, the shilling was descended from the Roman "solidus".
So, and this will sound hilarious to people born after 1966, "L.s.d." used to be a synonym for "money" generally. As it happens, the other type of LSD became a topic of conversation about the time that decimal currency was introduced.
Back to your legitimate question: 1d = one penny 2d = two pennies, usually written twopence, but pronounced "tuppence". Australia never had a 2d coin, but the Brits did. 1/2d = one-half penny, usually written halfpenny, but pronounced "ha'penny".
The Brits went decimal about 1970. The pound remained the same. The shilling disappeared. The old pennies, etc disappeared. Instead of being equal to 240 old pennies, the pound was now divided into 100 New Pence, which were abbreviated "p", which you have probably heard of. A few years after decimal conversion, the Brits dropped "New Penny/Pence" down to just "Penny/Pence".
Peter
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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OH YEH, I get it now
Thats why all the old Australian stamps have 1d written on them!
the british ones have 1p for penny or pence
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