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Is This 1953-S Franklin A FBL?

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 Posted 07/24/2017  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Steele to your friends list
I'm going to say that no TPG is going to give this a FBL designation. from PCGS website https://www.PCGS.com/News/Tips-From...-Room-Part-4
'When the bottom set of lines across the Liberty Bell is complete and uninterrupted, a regular-strike Mint State 60 or above Franklin half dollar receives the designation Full Bell Lines (FBL). If these lines are obscured by marks, strike, planchet defects, or other problems, the coin will not receive the FBL designation. A few marks across the lines will not prevent a coin from receiving this designation, as long as the continuity of the lines is not disturbed. Multiple marks, scratches, scrapes, or other detractions that interfere with the continuity of the lines will prevent a specimen from receiving the FBL designation. Slight incompleteness of the bell lines, immediately to the left or right of the crack that traverses the bell, will not prevent a coin from receiving the FBL designation.'

to me, in this picture, the bottom set of lines appears to be missing about one third of the lines.

unverified info to follow

from: https://www.NGCcoin.com/boards/topi...-dollar-fbl/
A.) NGC requires all 6 lines must be fully visible across all 4 quadrants (except right up against the crack) and have no breaks caused by tick marks or scrapes. The lines do not have to be razor sharp.



B.) Since 1997 PCGS only required the bottom 3 lines to be fully visible and have no breaks from ticks or scrapes and again, the lines do not have to be razor sharp.



C.) ANACS requires both sets of lines on the bell to be complete and clear, except for the small area just to the left of the on the upper set, right next to the crack of the bell, (this tiny area is always weak). Marks or cuts that break the lines, unless very small, will keep the coin from being designated as FBL.
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 Posted 07/24/2017  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beefer518 to your friends list

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I'm not seeing it. The bottom line left of the crack in the bell look flat.


That's what I see, and there is no way (in my opinion) that it is FBL. FBL indicates a full strike, and this looks like every other '53-S to the left of the crack.

It sold for $525....

Steele - that's always been my understanding, so this one had me smacking my head in disbelief.
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07/24/2017 8:50 pm
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It sold for $525....

link?
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 Posted 07/24/2017  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beefer518 to your friends list
This should work - https://www.proxibid.com/aspr/Aucti...2&rfpb=0#Top

You can also get a better enlarged view.
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 Posted 07/24/2017  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LibertyEagle20 to your friends list
Wow people have way too much money on their hands.
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 Posted 07/24/2017  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Steele to your friends list
looks almost like a green label PCGS holder
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 Posted 07/24/2017  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beefer518 to your friends list
It's not, it's USCG (basement slabber).
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 Posted 07/24/2017  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Steele to your friends list
the US Coast Guard has started a slabbing service? man, times really are tough
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 Posted 07/24/2017  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beefer518 to your friends list
http://goccf.com/t/291471

Some folks won't get the sarcasm, Steele
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 Posted 07/24/2017  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I can't really see FBL in the pictures.
Nevertheless, an excellent example.

Others here have expressed what may be TPG opinions, which is just another opinion anyway, and perhaps no better than ours.

I recognize that there are quite a few skilled graders, here in the CCF, I reckon it is much better to grade your own coins, with the exception that if you may be selling via ebay.
TPGrading gives buyer confidence.
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 Posted 07/25/2017  07:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ham1947 to your friends list
Very obvious. No FBL's.
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 Posted 07/25/2017  2:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
$525 + 18% + Shipping so about $625.50
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 Posted 07/25/2017  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Jeesh.
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 Posted 07/25/2017  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imthealphaomega to your friends list
1953 S is the key date in terms of full bell lines. It's simple they are extremely rare and many S mint marks were weakly struck. If this way truely FBL it'd be worth several thousand to many thousands of dollars. PCGS estimates around 200 examples of FBL
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07/25/2017 4:49 pm
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 Posted 03/22/2019  11:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add superjess to your friends list
Sorry to say, it's not a FBL. Notice the flat spot on the lower bell lines, just left of the crack.

San Fran did not use the same pressure during minting, and the master dies were badly worn.
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