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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: 100% Nope. Counterfeit. Should I post it in the ebay counterfeit reporting thread?
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Quote:Should I post it in the ebay counterfeit reporting thread? You can always post it in the counterfeit forum and let Bobby take care of it - if there is ample time left on the auction.
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Bedrock of the Community
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A look at the four head types of 1794 (1793, 1794, 1795, 1795 exact) will quickly show you why this coin cannot be authentic, even if the "square ear" didn't stick out like a sore thumb.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
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4 head types: 
Edited by Mark1959 08/18/2017 10:24 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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1794 head of 94 S-43 I don't see anything outright in the pictures that would cause me to condemn it.
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Pillar of the Community
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I think it's an S-44 with the die crack through the 17. Seller guarantees authenticity.
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I have taken it off of the counterfeit thread.
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Pillar of the Community
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What is on the edge of the coin? Is it just a plain edge? That will give you your answer.
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Bedrock of the Community
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It is definitely not an S-44; it does have an S-43 obverse, but the reverse appears to be wrong for S-43: it should be rotated but that is not mentioned, the leaves and berries are off in places (notably the leaf under 2nd T in STATES), and the T in CENT does not appear to be noticeably lower than the adjacent N. It is possible that the issues with OP's coin are attributable to corrosion and environmental damage. But my suspicion is still that this is a counterfeit. It may well be a damaged authentic coin. Of course, the best action would be to have it examined in-hand and authenticated by a TPG. Edit: I can't see the auction at work, but see Edweather's post below.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
Edited by paralyse 08/19/2017 6:05 pm
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Talking about berries being off - on the reverse between the first S from STATES and the O from ONE some coins have 4 leaves, 2 berries. OP coin has the 4 leaves but only ONE berry. Unless they struck many different varieties I guess we'll never know.
Edited by Mark1959 08/19/2017 1:56 pm
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I agree, not an S-44, but probably, S-43 as Conder mentioned. On the reverse, the T in CENT does look lower than the adjacent N. FWIW there is edge lettering.
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Rest in Peace
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It's over $300 with 5 days to go, so a few folks like it. But it could be the same folks who snatch up all the 1804 Bust Dollars.
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Quote: Unless they struck many different varieties I guess we'll never know. There are 70 different varieties of 1794 large cents, 59 S numbered varieties and 11 NC's. Definitely S-43. If you blow up the images some more you cand clearly see the dull break/gouge from the rim over the A in STATES, and the die crack from the rim up through the you is just starting. Appears to be die stage II.
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Conder is right. It's apparently just severe environmental damage/corrosion, not signs of a fake.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
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