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 Posted 08/19/2017  06:14 am  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list

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Maybe he can add some cool story to it, to make it more valuable :')


This is a fake coin where the counterfeiters used a date that was never used on genuine Trade dollars. In my photo archives, I have photos of Trade dollars dated 1791-CC, 1791-S, 1796-CC, 1797, 1797-CC, 1798-CC, 1799-S (like yours), 1871, 1871-CC, 1872, 1872-CC, 1879-CC, 1879-S, 1881-S, 1882-CC, 1882-S, 1883-CC, 1884-CC and 1885-CC.

These are made to sell by street vendors or at flea markets to unsuspecting buyers thinking they are getting a bargain. What you have is currently available online for about $2 from certain Chinese sellers and that includes FREE shipping from China (which means they are "worth" less than 10¢).

It is most assuredly brass or other base metal with a silver wash or plating (meaning virtually no silver).

No story is going to make this fake coin "more valuable". Its proper place is in the garbage can.
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 Posted 08/19/2017  07:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
to CCF Arko. It is not a real coin. The only thing you have going for it is the story and that it is from your grandfather. Do not trash can it. Put it in a 2x2 and label it properly, as a fake and that it is from your grandfather's collection. A family keepsake.
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 Posted 08/19/2017  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
, With john1 .
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 Posted 08/19/2017  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Same here.



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 Posted 08/20/2017  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Put it in a 2x2 and label it properly, as a fake and that it is from your grandfather's collection. A family keepsake.
Agreed 100%

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 Posted 08/20/2017  03:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add man2004 to your friends list
Cool coin. I spotted it in less than a few seconds. But, it's still a great coin because it was Gramp's coin. Welcome!
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 Posted 08/20/2017  03:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list

It is amusing to me how often a fake coin is from Grandfathers collection. Its got to the point that I think all grandfathers are corrupt and any coin described as from grandfather I would run from ^^ Maybe my own grandfather was the only guy to leave real coins behind.
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 Posted 08/20/2017  04:17 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list

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Its got to the point that I think all grandfathers are corrupt and any coin described as from grandfather I would run from ^^ Maybe my own grandfather was the only guy to leave real coins behind.


That sounds like a fairly baseless generalization.

I have found several nice things from my wife's grandfather's collection that were overlooked because they were foreign. It's about the path of transmittal and the profit-seeking interlopers.
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Its got to the point that I think all grandfathers are corrupt and any coin described as from grandfather I would run from ^^ Maybe my own grandfather was the only guy to leave real coins behind.
Ouch.
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 Posted 08/20/2017  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinlover1899 to your friends list
Yeah, sadly a counterfeit.
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 Posted 08/21/2017  03:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Idoru to your friends list
Thanks everyone for the warm welcoming to the community!

Probably the "grandfathers paradox" comes from my age and as a millennial, I'm not yet very enthusiastic about coins or collecting at all. Most of the time goes to other things. As well visiting grandparents, but yeah, this coin really caught my attention and I must admit the 4-5 hours research lighted a little interest in my head. I probably will start looking things from my home market (Estonia), and never say never, maybe I can show some coins to my grandchilds in future ;)

Cheers and you have a very supportive community here!
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 Posted 08/21/2017  04:03 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list

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I must admit the 4-5 hours research lighted a little interest in my head.


That's how it starts. Research has a way of lending itself to more necessary research. Then, it's the blue pill or the red pill.

As far as "Grandpa's Collection", be more concerned about the family trying to sell it than Grandpa himself.
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 Posted 08/21/2017  08:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list

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That sounds like a fairly baseless generalization


It was indeed a generalization, a light-hearted mocking that so many fake coins are sold with a detailed back story concerning receiving a coin from their grandfather.

You seriously thought I was saying my Grandfather was the only honest guy out there?
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 Posted 08/22/2017  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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That sounds like a fairly baseless generalization.

It sounds like a joke. and that's how I took it.
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 Posted 08/22/2017  3:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
Sometimes British humour does not translate well, especially in simple text.
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