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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: Maybe he can add some cool story to it, to make it more valuable :') This is a fake coin where the counterfeiters used a date that was never used on genuine Trade dollars. In my photo archives, I have photos of Trade dollars dated 1791-CC, 1791-S, 1796-CC, 1797, 1797-CC, 1798-CC, 1799-S (like yours), 1871, 1871-CC, 1872, 1872-CC, 1879-CC, 1879-S, 1881-S, 1882-CC, 1882-S, 1883-CC, 1884-CC and 1885-CC. These are made to sell by street vendors or at flea markets to unsuspecting buyers thinking they are getting a bargain. What you have is currently available online for about $2 from certain Chinese sellers and that includes FREE shipping from China (which means they are "worth" less than 10¢). It is most assuredly brass or other base metal with a silver wash or plating (meaning virtually no silver). No story is going to make this fake coin "more valuable". Its proper place is in the garbage can.
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Moderator
 United States
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 to CCF Arko. It is not a real coin. The only thing you have going for it is the story and that it is from your grandfather. Do not trash can it. Put it in a 2x2 and label it properly, as a fake and that it is from your grandfather's collection. A family keepsake. John1 
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Rest in Peace
United States
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 , With john1 . 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Same here.  to the CCF!
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 United States
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Quote: Put it in a 2x2 and label it properly, as a fake and that it is from your grandfather's collection. A family keepsake. Agreed 100%   to the Community!
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Valued Member
United States
338 Posts |
Cool coin. I spotted it in less than a few seconds. But, it's still a great coin because it was Gramp's coin. Welcome!
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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It is amusing to me how often a fake coin is from Grandfathers collection. Its got to the point that I think all grandfathers are corrupt and any coin described as from grandfather I would run from ^^ Maybe my own grandfather was the only guy to leave real coins behind.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Quote: Its got to the point that I think all grandfathers are corrupt and any coin described as from grandfather I would run from ^^ Maybe my own grandfather was the only guy to leave real coins behind. That sounds like a fairly baseless generalization.  I have found several nice things from my wife's grandfather's collection that were overlooked because they were foreign. It's about the path of transmittal and the profit-seeking interlopers.
In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020 In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020 In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: Its got to the point that I think all grandfathers are corrupt and any coin described as from grandfather I would run from ^^ Maybe my own grandfather was the only guy to leave real coins behind. Ouch. 
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Yeah, sadly a counterfeit.
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New Member
 Estonia
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Thanks everyone for the warm welcoming to the community!
Probably the "grandfathers paradox" comes from my age and as a millennial, I'm not yet very enthusiastic about coins or collecting at all. Most of the time goes to other things. As well visiting grandparents, but yeah, this coin really caught my attention and I must admit the 4-5 hours research lighted a little interest in my head. I probably will start looking things from my home market (Estonia), and never say never, maybe I can show some coins to my grandchilds in future ;)
Cheers and you have a very supportive community here! Arko
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Quote: I must admit the 4-5 hours research lighted a little interest in my head.  That's how it starts. Research has a way of lending itself to more necessary research. Then, it's the blue pill or the red pill.  As far as "Grandpa's Collection", be more concerned about the family trying to sell it than Grandpa himself.
In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020 In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020 In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Quote: That sounds like a fairly baseless generalization It was indeed a generalization, a light-hearted mocking that so many fake coins are sold with a detailed back story concerning receiving a coin from their grandfather. You seriously thought I was saying my Grandfather was the only honest guy out there?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: That sounds like a fairly baseless generalization. It sounds like a joke. and that's how I took it.
Edited by Conder101 08/22/2017 11:04 am
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Moderator
 United States
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Sometimes British humour does not translate well, especially in simple text. 
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