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So, this is what the obverse looks like when one corrects the color:  Does that change anyone's opinion? The reverse is rather closer, but would still have less red-brown saturation when the cardboard flip is correctly adjusted to its' actual hue. There's a takeaway about coin photography here....
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Valued Member
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SsuperDdave that color looks a lot better however when in hand it really does have that gold color.
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I really love this website because it has really helped me diagnose coins a lot better. I have to agree with the consensus it has harsh hairline scratches all over and then was dipped to give it the gold tone.
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Quote: SsuperDdave that color looks a lot better however when in hand it really does have that gold color.
It will, as long as you look at it under a light which casts that color upon it. The human eye doesn't do "color correction." The eye feeds you what it sees. Go to a local big-box home improvement store, and look in the light bulb aisle. Chances are there'll be a display of the varying color temperatures of the bulbs they sell, individual lights illuminating the same printed scene. It'll be an education on the effect of color temperature on the human eye if you haven't seen it before.  As humans, we've decided (likely genetically) that "normal" color is that as seen under midday sunlight. Cameras can correct to this ideal; the eye cannot. So when you correct to that 5000-5500 Kelvin "ideal," the color may not look right to you because you don't look at your coins in-hand that way. You probably look at them under incandescent lighting, which will always add a yellowish cast to the coin. And that's the takeaway about coin photography. The color of a coin you see represented on the monitor may not be the "real" color of the coin, and even if it is you might not see it that way. And the next observer with a differently-calibrated monitor might not see the same color you do anyway. This must be a major factor in your evaluation of online images.
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Pillar of the Community
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Thank SsuperDdave! I bookmarked your answer it's so helpful. ~ Mark P.S. Bookmarking on CCF - Bookmarking may be done by clicking the  icon within the post or topic.  You can categorize your bookmarks (you create and name the categories). To view your bookmarks, click the Tools button up top and then find the Bookmarks link. 
Edited by dd27 08/27/2017 3:30 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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For the 2nd coin, I'd say EF-40, but a sharper image might suggest a higher grade (what looks like wear now might actually be blurriness).
Edited by dd27 08/27/2017 3:34 pm
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Valued Member
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That was very interesting SsuperdDaveThank you for the enlightening information! 
Edited by Buckwill311 08/27/2017 3:36 pm
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Are these photos any better?  
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Bedrock of the Community
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First one VF details, second one EF-45 choice, maybe even low AU.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I think the OP has shown his skill at photographing two quite different coins and that he well understands the apparent problems with the first one. 
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 Is the OP me? Thanks Coinfrog! I'm trying my best because I know that better pictures means more accurate advice 
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Bedrock of the Community
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Yes, you are the OP (Original Poster). Your pics are fine. Just trying to keep the thread from going off on a photo editing siding.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: second one EF-45 choice, maybe even low AU 
Edited by dd27 08/27/2017 8:45 pm
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Awesome! I personally think it could pass for AU 50 I love the color of this coin!
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