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1909-S Indian Head Cent For Your Grade

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 Posted 08/27/2017  11:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RedRaider to your friends list
Authenticity looks good to me....Why do you think its not genuine Chesterb?

Its been cleaned, polished, and everything else under the sun, but it looks genuine to me.

No higher than f12 details for me, probably more like VG details.
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 Posted 08/27/2017  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chesterb to your friends list

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Authenticity looks good to me....Why do you think its not genuine Chesterb


These dates have been counterfeited by the thousands and many nice examples exist. Overall this coin has a flat, mushy appearance. Compare it to a graded VG-F example. This could have been made from transfer dies or even cast. The letters, wreath and devices just look flat compared to a real example. The mintmark looks off as well.

When you have a heavily counterfeited date like this and a raw coin that 'just looks off' appears then my antennae immediately goes up. No way would I want to buy it and take the chance that it's real.
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 Posted 08/27/2017  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ploopy to your friends list
VG Details
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 Posted 08/27/2017  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Redifin to your friends list
Looks real to me. Just heavily circulated and harshly cleaned. VG-10 (cleaned)
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 Posted 08/27/2017  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Regency Store to your friends list

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I believe this coin to not be authentic.
The coin has been sleeping in a Whitman 9003 Indian Head cent album for the past 40+ years, I don't think it's counterfeit or altered. I thought the coin was going to grade around an F-12 at least

Onward and upward
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 Posted 08/27/2017  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Your pics aren't the best, but suggest VG sharpness as they stand. Even if it is Fine, the harsh cleaning will really clobber the value.
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 Posted 08/27/2017  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike1487 to your friends list
Fine Details, harshly cleaned. It's flat and mushy because of the cleaning, authenticity not a concern for me.
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 Posted 08/27/2017  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Regency Store to your friends list
I think I'm a little lacking in my copper coins grading skills.
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 Posted 08/27/2017  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Could be, but I assume you've looked at a lot of Indian cents in the past - do you really like the look of this one?
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 Posted 08/27/2017  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
VG10 sharpness, whizzed (obviously.) I would assign it a market value of about 25% of a problem-free VG10 with original surfaces. This coin was likely a full grade F12 before someone took the bench grinder to it.
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 Posted 08/27/2017  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Regency Store to your friends list

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Could be, but I assume you've looked at a lot of Indian cents in the past - do you really like the look of this one?


No, I have a few nicer looking Indians Cents than this. It's a decent filler for the end of the album.
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 Posted 08/27/2017  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list
VG-10 Details.
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F12 Details
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F12
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 Posted 08/28/2017  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nfine to your friends list
08-10 details. A lovely coin spoiled.
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