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1885-P Morgan For Grading

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 Posted 09/11/2017  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list
I was thinking 66 as well. Only area of concern is the line of unclear from the nose to the hair. Looks like there may be some scratches in that band.
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 Posted 09/11/2017  3:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Assuming the obverse is lustrous, I'd say 66 easily. a Beauty!
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 Posted 09/11/2017  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
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 Posted 09/11/2017  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list
I don't know squat about American coinage but that's one beautiful coin.
You have certainly mastered photographing them. Very well done.
Is it just me but the eagle looks like it has glasses on.

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 Posted 09/11/2017  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list
That is one clean Morgan - I can see it hitting a 66.
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 Posted 09/11/2017  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imthealphaomega to your friends list
Agree I see a minimum 66 with nice color. Definitely send it in.
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 Posted 09/11/2017  11:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list
MS-66. Very nice!
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 Posted 09/12/2017  01:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgDigger to your friends list
Exceptional coin. 65+ 66 Eagle detail.
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 Posted 09/12/2017  08:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Very nice. Easy 65 but 66 would not surprise me.
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 Posted 09/12/2017  08:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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I was thinking 66 as well. Only area of concern is the line of unclear from the nose to the hair. Looks like there may be some scratches in that band.


Exactly this, except the number I have in mind if that line is good is 67. Certainly a 66 without difficulty, and one of the nicest Morgans to ever appear here raw. This one is money.
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 Posted 09/12/2017  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shadowtrooper78 to your friends list
This will be a good test. I have actually submitted this coin before to ANACS. It was blast white when submitted. When I got it back I cracked it out and it has since sat on a window ledge with tissue paper (roughly 18 months). During that time she picked up this gorgeous toning. The pictures are exactly how the coin appears in hand. On my initial submission ANACS said MS 60 details cleaned. Regardless I also believe this to be a money coin...maybe they stuck it in the wrong slab haha.
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 Posted 09/12/2017  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
It all boils down to what the TPG's consider "market acceptable." Now that you mention it, I see some irregularity in the pattern on the (viewer's) right reverse near the wingtip which might raise a red flag, but OTOH you might be about to score big.

If you don't, it's still the finest cleaned Morgan I've seen.
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 Posted 09/12/2017  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shadowtrooper78 to your friends list
Its a win win coin for me. If they don't like it I'll crack it back out and be out $10. I'll throw it in my dansco and be done with it. If they like it she'll get sold for alot more money than I have in her :)
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 Posted 09/12/2017  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gargriff49 to your friends list
Obviously the toning must be helping to hide a really rough cheek area cause that's the only area I see that could of rendered it an MS-60 grade first time around regardless of the cleaning.
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 Posted 09/12/2017  11:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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Obviously the toning must be helping to hide a really rough cheek area cause that's the only area I see that could of rendered it an MS-60 grade first time around regardless of the cleaning.


That's ANACS' way of saying "Uncirculated Details, Cleaned." Could have been an MS68 before the cleaning and that's still what they'd designate; it's not a numeric grade assigned as an actual evaluation of technical detail.
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