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Valued Member
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Odd that someone who has been in business for over 50 years would suddenly make these mistakes given he knew what he was carrying. How does one get on an commercial flight with that kind of material, if as suggested he drove from the PIA? Most newer vehicles are equipped with alerts and dashboard displays that let you know if a door has been opened.  Edited by Proof Nut
10/06/2017 6:28 pm
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Sure, if you haven't heard the same scenario playing around a coin theft a dozen times in the last fifteen years. Success breeds complacency. I agree. It is easy to say we would have done something differently, but not everyone uses the same logic in these situations. "It cannot happen to me" and "If it has not happened to be by now" is more common than we think. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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It would not have been hard to determine where he would have been and when. Major coin shows give out the lists of dealers weeks in advance, the name of the hotel is publicized in advance (to get good rates), the start time of the show and the limited number of flights from Winnipeg would have unfortunately pinpointed his arrival rather precisely.
Given the risks of the coin business, we should not begrudge the dealers' profits.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Something doesn't seem right about this whole thing for too many reasons to list, but just how this whole crime went down, seems 'strange' to say the least.
Sure, if you haven't heard the same scenario playing around a coin theft a dozen times in the last fifteen years. Success breeds complacency. Many other scenarios that you refer to are quite different to this one. Most other ones, like the ones you hear about at US coin shows, happens when the dealer closes up his show and on his drive home, stops at a restaurant, where his car is broken into. The goods are stolen while the dealer is munching on his hamburger and fries. In regards to Joe's theft, I find many differences and a few of them are a little too 'coincidental' for my liking. I don't buy the 'random' theft story and I find the 'planned' coin heist a bit of a stretch. I want to state for the record that I do not believe the Vancouver dealer set this up. But.......for this robbery to be planned and for it to happen the way it has been described to us, strikes me as a one in a million occurance and all I'm saying is there must be a whole lot more facts that we do not know about. |
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Canada
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I'm just glad to hear that Joe was not hurt or attacked in any way.. That could also have happened..and it could have ended very badly for him.. The coins and paper can be replaced.. ..but this just in.. https://canadiancoinnews.com/jm-dou...coins-notes/ . Edited by DEVLEC
10/07/2017 8:15 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Some one casing his business "overheard" his conversation perhaps in his shop with a known customer. Made it convenient for crook(s) by putting valuables in standard baggage,inside instead of trunk. Very unlikely scenario given Joe's store is in Vancouver and the show is in Toronto. Someone "casing" the store and following him to Toronto is not going to happen. Why "case" the store when his attendance at the Toronto is already known through the Toronto coin show. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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My LCS received the list of stolen stuff, and was wondering why this list did not provide the serial numbers of the banknotes and the ID numbers for the slabbed coins. Does anyone know if this information is available?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I recall hearing something about this on 680 news earlier today, but didn't catch the details.
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Canada
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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There seem to be some discrepancy here. Earlier it was reported that the coins were worth in excess of $1 Million. Now it is worth $500,000?
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Forum Dad
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United States
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The foliage does not help.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Seems like a poor choice of location to install a security camera. Hopefully only 1 frame is needed for someone to recognize the suspect. Too bad a vehicle plate wasn't recorded as well.
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United States
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The camera was probably placed there long before they grew into its view. No one has bothered to do anything about it.
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