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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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MS65 ...what 'you' are calling scratches are inconsistencies in the toning, imho.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2495 Posts |
Sorry to say this, but if this coin grades an ms65, then everyone here should stop bashing ICCS and start bashing PCGS.
I would bet a small fortune that this coin doesn't grade any better than a 64 and as stated earlier, it should be an ms63.
Tripoli.....let me understand.....you think the obverse field area to the right of the Queen's profile is toning inconsistencies and not scratches (or marks)?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I thought the chatter in front of the queen's bust would have been on the planchet and not from ding marks. If so, then yes DE59, i'd say a 64. Nicer than a 63.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Those PCGS photos pulled off some beautiful toning on that dollar..and it presents wonderfully..
Don't they give extra value to excellent toning ?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
 Australia
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I was a little disappointed in the MS64 grade given this coin by PCGS. In hand it easily presents as a MS65 coin and has a rather nice satin like lustre and appearance.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2495 Posts |
I honestly don't want to harp on this issue, but this coin is not even close to a 65, PCGS or ICCS graded, it doesn't matter.
Probably an ms63 with ICCS and because of the beautiful toning (eye appeal) PCGS bumped it to a 64.
The whole right side of the obverse field is cluttered with marks.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
867 Posts |
@doubleeagle, Yes, I'm suggesting this coin presents better in person and those marks at 3 oclock on obverse are not scratches (if it had graded MS65)
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Those are Not scratches at 3 o'clock, There are however 2 tiny curved marks on the Queens chin and at the base of her neck.
These small marks may have been why the coin only graded MS64 But I have seen MS65 coins that are not as nice as this particular coin.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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And I don't mean to harp on the negativity with respect US TPGS but I think this coin is fairly graded. I think both PCGS and NGC have become far more consistent in the world of "MS" grading of Canadian coins. I would venture to say more so than ICCS in recent history.
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Valued Member
Canada
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^^ I second that opinion. ICCS can be all over the place with these dollars. It's infuriating.
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Valued Member
Canada
324 Posts |
I think MS-64 is a fair grade for this one. Its beautiful!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
586 Posts |
I'm new to this and I am finding it difficult to grade anything. I wasn't impressed with this coin. The toning was beautiful but I found the leaves on the queens head were not very pronounced and I found it hard to distinguish them on some parts of he head. I thought it was AU or MS-60.
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Pillar of the Community
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No way an AU coin.
I agree with the grade it received.
TheBurnz
It's important to remember that an MS60 coin is not close in looks to an AU58 coin. The AU grade us given if there is any WEAR the MS grade when there is no WEAR.The numbers within MS are representative of bag marks, distractions, contact marks.... Never wear. Usually an AU58 coin will be almost a 63 or better - were it to be an MS coin.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Hi Mr. Trout...  I think PCGS got it right. |
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