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 Posted 10/11/2017  2:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
with Super Dave's price range, but I'd set my hard water mark on this coin at $1350. Those black spots on the reverse are not attractive.
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 Posted 10/11/2017  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add krazykoin to your friends list
Great feedback...I will come back in a few weeks when I have proper photos.
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 Posted 10/11/2017  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
It's a decent coin, but it's dull and splotchy and I'm not crazy about it, especially the reverse. I would value it under $1,500 for sure.
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 Posted 10/11/2017  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sheldon Overton Baby to your friends list
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 Posted 10/11/2017  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list
Agree with mox. Eye appeal is the single most important factor when determining value. Especially with slds as most have been doctored at one point or another. Based on the pics your example is ok looking but not great. Probably been worked on lightly as some black stains still remain. The only way to get realistic price discovery is to have an expert view it in hand or put it up for auction with professional pictures.
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 Posted 10/11/2017  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
great looking coin and much better than most au58s I see.
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 Posted 10/11/2017  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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Great Collections has lower fees, but ebay has more people looking.


Great Collections fees are higher than eBays. They raised their buyers fee to 12.5% so they're still higher even for coins over 1k.

ebay you likely won't like the results with a new sellers account that doesn't usually sell coins listing something like that as an auction.

David Lawrence is another option for auctions.

Your lowest fees would likely be consigning through Gerry Fortin, he only charges 9% at that price level and is a noted seated expert.
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 Posted 10/11/2017  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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To illustrate that problem with ebay, the auction you mentioned brought by far the highest single price ever paid for an 1841 in AU58.


Not by far. A PCGS 58 sold for $2,820 two years ago at Heritage.

https://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-dol...ption-071515
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 Posted 10/11/2017  11:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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Not by far. A PCGS 58 sold for $2,820 two years ago at Heritage.

https://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-dol...ption-071515


That auction does not appear on the PCGS Auction Prices listing. Interesting. And the Cert is no longer valid.

And the coin - although very nice - is not over AU55. Makes me wonder if it got bought back under a Grade Review.

OK, then there are two outliers.
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 Posted 10/11/2017  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add g048406 to your friends list
A nicer looking 1841 Dollar PCGS AU-58 just sold at auction recently for $1,058.......I believe your coin is more in the $900-$1000 range:

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 Posted 10/12/2017  12:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list

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A nicer looking 1841 Dollar PCGS AU-58 just sold at auction recently for $1,058.......I believe your coin is more in the $900-$1000 range:



Yaak! I would take the op's coin over that exorbitantly cleaned piece of crap any day! Who ever purchased it didn't know what they were doing. Advanced sld collectors wouldn't wasted their time or money on it. That said I think your range for pricing is inline with what auction results would produce for the op's piece.
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 Posted 10/12/2017  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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That auction does not appear on the PCGS Auction Prices listing. Interesting. And the Cert is no longer valid.

And the coin - although very nice - is not over AU55. Makes me wonder if it got bought back under a Grade Review.

OK, then there are two outliers.


I'm a big fan of the PCGS auction price tool, but there are definitely holes in it. I mostly use it as a snap shot for rarer things and then look around and see what was missed. It would be interesting to know if there was a pattern or something in common with what doesn't make it in there
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 Posted 10/12/2017  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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It would be interesting to know if there was a pattern or something in common with what doesn't make it in there


I see it regularly. Many times it's a PCGS coin which doesn't show up, which does them no good, so I have to think "incompetence" rather than "deliberacy."
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 Posted 10/12/2017  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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I see it regularly. Many times it's a PCGS coin which doesn't show up, which does them no good, so I have to think "incompetence" rather than "deliberacy."


Does seem to be a coding issue, or it's just overwhelmed sometimes
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 Posted 10/14/2017  04:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list
If you do sell, learn how to take decent pictures. Scans usually make coins look ugly, and not too many people want ugly coins.

Just so you know, if I was in the market for an AU-58 SLD, I would have passed right over your coin given the current pictures.
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