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AU55, shot at 58, very little circulation rub, no major distracting marks under the toning, looks extremely original. This is the way to collect them, at least for me.
Ask yourselves this: would you pay AU50, AU55, or AU58 money for this coin? There's your grade.
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NGC can be lenient on AU coins lacking luster but not that lenient. AU50 is my guess, maybe 53 on a good day.
Looks like a PCGS XF45.
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I've seen plenty of fully-toned/heavy color coins with not much luster to speak of in AU53/55/58 holders. They're grading on sharpness, not luster, due to the toning. Otherwise, heavily toned coins such as this one would never get above XF, even if they were Uncirculated.
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There's not much toning or luster in the right obverse field. I wouldn't pay au58 money for this coin.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
11/30/2017 11:01 pm
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I see now it looks like a PCGS holder. It will be interesting to see what they said. Here again I agree with Numismatic Student that it does not look AU58 (or even 55 IMO).
It is a nice looking coin and a tough date for sure. Worth a lot of money but not AU58 money.
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Between AU-55 and AU-58. AU-56.5 :D
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There's not much toning or luster in the right obverse field. I wouldn't pay au58 money for this coin. Or that's just what the picture is showing from how it was taken or the toning. Circulation wouldn't just wear off the right obverse field luster and barely touch anything else. Stars weren't worn flat either, there's far to much detail elsewhere for the stars to have worn down like that. Its an O mint not a Philly. |
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It's hard to say without seeing it in hand. I'll take a stab though and say AU-53. It looks like a nice original coin.
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Large Date. I'm calling it AU53, in a very rare case (for me) of allowing eye appeal to negatively affect my grade on a coin. I believe the coin's technical merit exceeds the grade, especially factoring known strike artifacts for this issue, but I'm hesitant to go the higher AU grades for a coin which shows no remaining luster. Not that I'd avoid owning it.  |
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I don't understand how people can determine the remaining luster (or lack thereof) by looking at an image? Yes the toning is thick on this one but that doesn't mean there isn't luster underneath. A coin really needs to be seen in hand to appreciate that.
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This is the only coin I won from that wonderful auction by great collections. And for the shocker: This coin is graded xf-45 by PCGS. I paid roughly $347 for it. (assuming the check payment option doesn't take forever, they now give a 2.5% discount for paying that way-dodging papal fees-I love it)
/Really bummed I couldn't get the order in for the 56-O. Loved that coin as well.
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Good buy at that price. Coins like this often get a bump to AU at NGC & ANACS.
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