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Just Purchased These Beauties So Happy They Will Be Here Next Week

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 Posted 12/09/2017  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list

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Bob, does the patina look familiar?


Well, the applied patinas of "Z" are always a grating yellow, so It seems to me that none of these have passed through his yellowed hands. "A" prefers more reddish applications. While some of these are reddish enough to resemble his work, there's more diversity of hue here than I would expect from his stock. But there's no sure way to tell. And of course those aren't the only two guys doing that kind of work, unfortunately.
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 Posted 12/09/2017  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list
I see a whole bunch of Aelia Flaccillas in there- nice grab!
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 Posted 12/09/2017  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
I know that Z is located in the UK and all his stuff is shipped from the Middle East. A is in Israel, I wounder if they might be using the same supplier?

These are all very nice examples and I wouldn't mind having any or all in my collection.
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 Posted 12/09/2017  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add orfew to your friends list
A very nice group.
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 Posted 12/09/2017  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coldashby to your friends list
When they arrive ill post better photos, cheers guys
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 Posted 12/09/2017  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list
Bob and Ron, would you recommend to @coldashby that these coins be soaked in acetone to see if the desert patina has been artificially applied? Or is it better to just leave these "as-is"?
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 Posted 12/09/2017  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
If just applied rubbing them between fingertips would remove the fresh patina. I thinks most will be natural patina but there are a few that look questionable.
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 Posted 12/11/2017  01:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coldashby to your friends list
No need for acetone this these are the genuine article, we go back a while the supplier & I
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 Posted 12/11/2017  05:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list
@coldashby, yes sorry for the confusion. I was wondering about the desert patina rather than the coins themselves. You have a great stash of coins coming!
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 Posted 12/11/2017  07:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tenbobbit to your friends list
I would be very surprised if it is natural patina on all of the coins.
We have had many discussions regarding such coins and I honestly think that many of those in your lot have a modern sand application.
It is not my intention to be derogatory as you have a nice lot of coins there, I just think you should be a little more attentive to the patina.
I personally would have passed based on the patina as I cant be bothered to go through the process of bringing the coins back to their original condition.
All of this said, if you like it then you have hit the jackpot.

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 Posted 12/12/2017  01:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
Soaking them in acetone for a day won't hurt them in any way.
They appear to be 4 or 5 different shades from greenish yellow to burnt orange in color.
You might separate them by color and (just for giggles) take one of each shade and give them a 'bath' in acetone.
Acetone will dissolve any oils or other things better poured down the drain.
Then a few hours in distilled water will give a short answer to the question !
If the 'patina' washes away with a gentle rub it is artificial.
If it requires any real effort it is likely real.

My first impression was that it looked ....... applied.
But I have been wrong many times before !
I have also discovered some things I would have preferred not to !

Over all they are a nice lot as long as you got the bulk (wholesale) price
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 Posted 12/12/2017  03:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list
Great set of coins there...
As you know I had a coin from z and acetone is not needed just 5 mins in distilled water and the applied patina rubs off easily...Saying that these coins don't seem to have the same yellow colouring as mine did and the plus side the coin looks better after cleaning and of course they're all real..
Heres how it looked..
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 Posted 12/12/2017  03:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coldashby to your friends list
These come from the Lebanon, nothing added nothing taken away
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 Posted 12/12/2017  04:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list
copied from their other thread

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 Posted 12/13/2017  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lrbguy to your friends list
What a great group. It looks like about 20% of them are coins for empresses, and all are fully attributable it would seem. Nice catch.
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