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New Member
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I bought it in hungary with other gold coins (french, hungarian, bullion coins) We are don't understand USA coins there. All year same price, this is my first Roman letters 20 dollars, and I checked internet, and I see its rare. But the color is different like arabic numbers dated coins...
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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It is always easier to sell high quality fakes into markets that have the least ability to identify them as fakes.
I feel forced to agree with the comments of BH1964.
I must admit: I can't pick this one here from pictures alone.
This item may well be made from 90% copper / gold alloy, to be exactly the same as a genuine American gold coin. The source for such alloy is from genuine common low grade melted down American gold coins.
Need a company with sufficient professional experience and talent, such as Heritage Auctions, to offer a professional opinion. If in their opinion it is genuine, it would be a good idea to then have it slabbed. Keep all of the documentation from this process, to establish provenance.
You should then be able to sell it into any market in the World.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Might be an Omega counterfeit. The makers mark would be inside the claw on the reverse. I see something in that area but cannot make out exactly what it is.
Even if it is an Omega counterfeit, it's still worth more than bullion value.
Edited by westernsky
12/09/2017 10:42 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I would agree with that also. If it is, you have a dangerous, deceiving and tempting possession. If it is a fake, and you successfully sell it, and are later proven to have sold it under a deception, you could be in trouble with the Law. The legal costs could be excessive. Much better to have it professionally authenticated, before deciding what to do with it. Perhaps it could be sold as a proven fake; it may be well worth more than just the gold value. Much cheaper that way.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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 United States
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New Member
Hungary
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I checked again with 20x mag. I don't find any signatures of omega and nothing. I tryied to make photo, please look. What do you think guys?   |
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United States
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Interesting example for sure. I do not have the expertise to offer an informed opinion on authenticity .... fully concur with the others that this example requires professional in-hand viewing.
If you do so, please let us know the verdict.
Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.artEdited by nickelsearcher
12/10/2017 07:00 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks like there is something that appears inside the claw that may, or may not, be an Omega symbol. Regardless, authentication by TPG is a must as it will have to be slabbed to be marketable on the outside chance it is real. Even if it's not genuine it is worth more than melt and is a nice score to make. This is probably the most sought after counterfeit gold coin and is on a lot of want lists. |
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United States
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Have you had somebody with an XRF look at it?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Great thread. to the CCF! |
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Australia
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XRF is probably not of much use in this case.
I think that this coin, if fake, it is most probably made from recycled 90% coin gold.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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People will counterfeit anything for $100 much less a valuable coin. Yes, get it authenticated and you may have a nice Christmas surprise. I don't even buy coins online if they are not in a slab. Even face-to-face purchases are easier to consider if the coin is in a slab. What I found out was that slabbed coins online are often no more expensive than raw coins.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It looks like something is in the claw and it could be interpreted as an omega, but it doesn't match the mark on the known omega fakes, and I dont see the tooling marks on the obv that are seen on the Omega fakes.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I think the consensus is that this coin needs to be professionally evaluated/authenticated. For the potential value, it is well worth the costs of finding out what exactly it is.
In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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