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Pillar of the Community
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That sucker has got to jump "big time" from $256, right? I bet there are bidders waiting til the last second.
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Moderator
 United States
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Winning bid: US $407.30 
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Rest in Peace
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$150 jump at 2secs left. That don't pass the smell test, dollar to a donut it was a shill and the deal will get canxed later. Seller wasn't getting anywhere near his goal, had his favorite snipe whack it high. Will see this coin again.
Edited by Crazyb0 12/20/2017 6:27 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Wow! $407.30 still seems to be a great buy for that coin!
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Pillar of the Community
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I'm wondering if that sell price could have reflected a problem coin? Also, IMO not the best time to end bidding....a Wednesday evening? A Sunday evening probably would have been better for the seller. Plus, selling a coin like this five days before Christmas?
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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I don't think it was a shill bidder. That's just how proxy bidding works when you're sniping. You enter your maximum bid (only one shot) not knowing what the current highest bidder set as their max. It does allow for major jumps within a couple seconds.
In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020 In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020 In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Pillar of the Community
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Spruett001- Did you see the coin? What did you think of it?
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Valued Member
United States
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Might be start of PVC residue build up. slight bluish green tints.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The coin has PVC damage, a little acetone would have gone a long way for the seller.
PVC plasticiser residue is colorless. The colored areas are verdigris. They are spots where the PVC hydrochloric acid has reacted with the copper in the coin to form copper chloride. Based on the extent of the PVC damage, this coin should be sent to NCS for conservation. Acetone will only do so much, it's also likely going to require a thiourea-acid dip. Seeing as it's a key coin, that should be left to professionals or experts.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Quote: Spruett001- Did you see the coin? What did you think of it? I did take a look at it, but I couldn't really come up with a solid explanation as my experience doesn't cover silver coins much. I do think it is damaged and may require the methods BadThad mentioned to restore it to respectability. If I had the money and wanted one, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have bid on that one. 
In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020 In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020 In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
Edited by spru 12/21/2017 9:04 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Got it. Thanks to all for your feedback! Appreciate that.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have bid on that one. Smart! This is nothing more the rolling the dice. More often than not with corroded coins, the buyer is going to roll snake eyes. I've seen it many, many times before. Every once in a while someone gets lucky but they are exception and not the norm.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Quote: Every once in a while someone gets lucky but they are exception and not the norm. Agreed. I've been duped a couple times when I took too much of a risk and ended up with coins I was not satisfied with. I pay much more attention now and spend more time comparing my options. Many times there are no current options worth buying, so I wait for something better to pop up. I'm learning to be more patient. That is partly due to buying more expensive coins than before. 
In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020 In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020 In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Pillar of the Community
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BadThad, spruett001, Yes, for raw coins absolutely. For graded coins, I would think/hope much less of a risk. I'm looking for this coin slabbed AU/MS61 range. At these price ranges (for me) I wouldn't touch or take a chance on that raw coin on ebay either.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Nice coin but it's not verdigris , more like milk spots or a form of toning . 
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