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Why Do The Mason`s Counterstamp Lincoln Cents?

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 Posted 12/04/2020  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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When I Googled this question this thread that I had forgotten about popped up. Instead of creating a new one consider this a bump.
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 Posted 12/05/2020  12:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list

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The Masons will counterstamp anything that isn't tied down.


I'd bet they'd brand a hog!
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 Posted 12/07/2020  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Big-Kingdom to your friends list
This isn't something freemasons do.
There are mark pennies, but they are totally crafted copper or silver tokens, about the size of a large cent, and representative of a particular lodge on one side, and then usually a Keystone on the other side, and not the compass and square, although it is on some lodges mark pennies. some are personalized for specific member of the lodge but it depends on the lodge and what they do.

Other than that, I'll add you can buy a freemason counter punch from Amazon if you wanted to and it has nothing to do with freemasonry.
that's all I got to say about that. LOL



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 Posted 12/08/2020  05:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list
This is quite insightful.

My Uncle who both got me into coin collecting a few years ago, and I'm living with once I start college, is a Mason.
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 Posted 12/08/2020  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chafemasterj to your friends list
@Bigkingdom. The problem I have is I have hundreds of them in my collection dating as far back to the mid 1800s. Most of them are different though I have matched a few stamps. Why so many. just about every year from 1911 on. There has to be some connection to the masons. Back then making a stamp was difficult. Some of the detail is amazing. For someone to put so much into making them there has to be some sort of connection. I know about the stamps you can buy on ebay. There is one unscrupulous seller stamping misc coins, making them look old and selling them as "Rare Vintage WWII Missing Masonic counter stamps". (I could be off on the exact wording.) What's funny is he has ten of them on sale at any given time. But I digress. If anybody has any other insight I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance.
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 Posted 01/30/2021  04:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gremlins to your friends list
The mason's can't keep their secrets if they are advertising all the secret symbols on the largest open, online marketplace ever known to man. &
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This new ANA presentation will go through the history of Masonic Pennies and examples of the different types of pennies. Many of the Pennies have interesting stories and some of them will be discussed. Much of this information is being presented for the first time.

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 Posted 08/01/2022  09:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list
Let's make the CCF a secret organization so we can counterstamp...some IKE Dollars

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 Posted 08/01/2022  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Let's make the CCF a secret organization so we can counterstamp...some IKE Dollars
I have two counterstamped Ikes... I would not mind a third.
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 Posted 08/01/2022  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list
We don't have a counter stamp but we do have our own coin.
http://goccf.com/t/149407&whichpage=21


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 Posted 08/01/2022  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
If the OP still regards their question to be unanswered - why have the Masons been stamping pennies for so long - then consider this line of reasoning.

Freemasonry is a secret society. Noteworthy amongst their publicly-known tenets are:
- Don't divulge any secrets you might be taught within Freemasonry
- Don't actively recruit new members.

That second point is perhaps more pertinent to this topic. Freemasons are famously prohibited from openly soliciting, asking or inviting a prospective member if they would like to join. Which is why you'll never see Freemasons standing on the street corner, preaching to the non-members and trying to convert them to Freemasonry. They're supposed to just sit there in their Lodges and wait for the prospective members to take the initiative and "express an interest" in joining. So, most of their "advertisements" must therefore be oblique and subtle.

A counterstamped penny, deliberately put into circulation, is just such an oblique advertisement. It is designed to tell you that the Freemasons exist, they have secrets they want to teach you, and are waiting to hear from you if you wish to join them, without actually saying any of that.

Even if an "official reason", a top-down, authorized and officially sanctioned programme to create and issue these pieces existed, you'd never find out about it, for three reasons.

One, the Freemasons are inherently secretive and don't tell outsiders, or even other people within their own organization, anything they don't need to know.

Two, advertising the fact that they're doing a covert advertising campaign would kind of defeat the purpose of the original covertness. Keeping people guessing, and keeping people curious, is the goal.

Third, placing advertising onto US coinage and putting it into circulation is, technically, illegal, and I believe has been illegal since at least 1940. A Masonic Lodge might be secretive but is nevertheless a chartered or incorporated organization and as such could be targeted by the Federal government for breaches of 18 USC 475, and fined. Just like 20th Century Fox got fined for producing those "Silver Surfer quarters" back in 2007.
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 Posted 08/02/2022  06:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chafemasterj to your friends list
Interesting take there Sap. I think you may be onto something there. Thank you for your thoughts.
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They're supposed to just sit there in their Lodges and wait for the prospective members to take the initiative and "express an interest" in joining.
My grandfather had a patch similar to this on the back of some of his hats...

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 Posted 08/02/2022  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Only men can be Masons, and of note, George Washington was a major poobah in the organization.
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 Posted 07/06/2023  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rainman1 to your friends list
There is merit to what Sap said above I believe.

The Order of the Eastern Star is a branch of the masons that allows admittance of men and women.
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