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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I don't think they are allowed to show the PCGS view if the coin has been cracked out. Or was it ever in a PCGS slab? Did the seller superimpose the PCGS title over the coin to make it look official? If the seller doesn't have an answer, keep looking.
I'm with the frog on this one. Those hairlines are pretty obvious. As is I would not bid on it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
688 Posts |
Definitely cleaned.
I'm also not a fan of the the first photo using the PCGS logo. While it doesn't say it is a certified coin, why else would you have the PCGS logo beside the coin except to make people think it is certified by them. Only other reason would be if he was a PCGS Authorized Dealer, but it isn't clear if they are.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I'd pass just on the basis of a deliberately deceptive listing.
-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
898 Posts |
Yep I agree. They might be using the PCGS one as a 'stock photo' and they're too completely different coins too... Seems too weird
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4469 Posts |
Deceptive listing pass. If the coin was in a PCGS holder, the seller knows the actual PCGS grade, but list the coin as AU/UNC.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4211 Posts |
 The use of the PCGS logo confused me as well. I would keep shopping as the bids keep coming on this one. |
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United States
379 Posts |
weird listing. it gives the word or symbol of "PCGS" on the listing photo, but does not show it in a holder, nor show the grade. For info, I might message the seller and ask the seller where they derived the AU or XF from, and by the way where is the picture of it in the PCGS holder. If the seller cannot answer this, you might ask what is the grade as I have not seen any of these grade catagories before without a grade on the label. It still might be worth buying if you can get this cleared up but it seems the seller is being way too evasive and/or incomplete on his claims regarding the coin. just my opinion. if the seller replies, please put it here as many of us can spot a b.s. listing from a mile away.
mike
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Rest in Peace
United States
17900 Posts |
Harshly cleaned Retone. Pass.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
8715 Posts |
Cleaned and re-toned. Pass.
The first image has the PCGS logo but no cert number. The coin is also out of a holder and there's no reason for PCGS logo to be there.
Even if it was in good condition I would pass because the listing is deceptive.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Wow, seller is from white plains new York. That means I'm about 20 minutes from this coin. It does look kinda pretty but I wouldn't get it with the scratches and cleaning. It's not ugly though. Also regarding that "trueview" notice the black around the coin? I've never seen that on a real trueview.
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Valued Member
United States
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well, it sold for $517. since it was a private auction, we have no idea on the buyer's experience... or anything else possibly shady about it the bidding.
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Valued Member
 United States
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I didn't buy cause of everybody being negative about the coin but I thought it was the best looking coin that old I ever seen.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5680 Posts |
This is the same seller that was discussed on another thread a few days ago about his unusual listings of details bust halves. http://goccf.com/t/305722 |
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Or was it ever in a PCGS slab? Did the seller superimpose the PCGS title over the coin to make it look official? Was in one hence the trueview but was cracked out. Counter productive to show the trueview even with the old cert number scrubbed as everyone knows what that means |
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United States
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You made the right decision, BassPro. It would've been nice to have a little more warning for us, though. While you can buy beautiful-looking cleaned or, otherwise altered rare coins, you should know exactly what you're getting into and should be paying about 1/2 of the regular price.
I'm not entirely sure the obv of this half was wire-brushed because, if it had been, there still wouldn't be nicks showing on the neck and lower face and in the field. The smaller pics do seem to be the same or a very similar coin but it does seem suspicious to me, too. For this kind of money, better to get the coin in a PCGS slab.
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