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Pillar of the Community
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Not genuine. On a genuine example the dot between the D and B (of the VDB) should be centered between the 2 letters. The one shown has the dot too close to the D.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Wow! Sounds like the counterfeiter added not only the S but also the VDB. A hard worker.
I have to admit, it looked pretty good to me, but I wasn't aware of the small details discussed above which reveal its inauthenticity.
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Valued Member
 Russian Federation
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Thanks for everyone! Now I know what details I should look at to know genuine or not.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Wow! Sounds like the counterfeiter added not only the S but also the VDB. A hard worker. Not quite. The rule regarding the proximity of the dot to the D is only a rule for S mint VDBs. That is to say, that there was indeed a die that had the dot close to the D, but it was used in the Philadelphia mint only. That is precisely why it is such an effective marker. The VDB from Philly is a very common coin, while the S no VDB is already a scarce coin. The crooks don't want to risk a 1909 S by adding a VDB, they usually just add an S to a P VDB. They can sometimes get the S to be the right shape and placement, but they can't change the VDB. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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jpsned - He didn't add the VDB, but used an '09VDB Philly as his base.
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Pillar of the Community
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Valued Member
United States
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I learned alot from this post, thanks
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Valued Member
United States
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If they can add an S mint mark why can't they add a dot and remove a dot? Inquiring minds want to know. Does it leave a mark?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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@Lionel-
#1 Removing a dot is always going to be harder than adding one.
#2 Ignorance. Both on the part of the counterfeiters, and more so, on the buyer end. They can get away with it, so they do it.
#3 Do we even need a reason?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Good enough to fool a lot of people. Put an imaginary rectangle around the mintmark and you might see how elongated the fake is relative to a real one.  Real  |
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Moderator
 United States
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In case anyone cares ... here is a photograph of the genuine coin in my collection: 1909-S VDB Lincoln Cent - PCGS MS65RB/CAC As suggested above .. I am not an expert on this series ... but do appreciate the CCF affirmation of my non-autehentic suppositions. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Truly a wonderful coin, nicklesearcher. It's good that we have the pros here to weigh in on a very convincing fake.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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OK, I couldn't resist, shoot me. Same die pair.  Edited by Coinfrog
02/25/2018 8:09 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Shoot you with what? A blast from the "we're jealous" gun?  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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You guys are amazing. Thank you for the education.
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