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Valued Member
United States
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My local coin dealer(i have been going to him awhile)automatically takes 0ff 5-10 bucks without me even asking. But again I gone to him for quite awhile.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Don't buy expensive coins on e-bay. Definitely see those in person. E-bay is okay for those filler coins, AG/G/F sort of grades, bullion, etc.
Coin dealers are great because if you're looking for a low grade 1921 Mercury, let's say. Your dealer probably has more than one or two. You can look and compare and get the "nicest" looking low grade one.
I've found coin shows to be most excellent for buying. You just need to be disciplined and have a short list and a very good idea of prices you want to pay and you'll probably find it - especially when first starting out and needing pretty much everything.
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New Member
United States
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O.K. Another rookie question? But I am here in Afghanistan and would like to purchase some coins they have here, but as with all things I do not want to get ripped off. So I took a leap and bought for $4 an 1872 CC Trade dollar and I see now that they did not circulate until 1873. Is this still worth anything except the $4 I paid? I also bought 2 1844 Seated Liberty dollars. After some research They seem to be in reasonably fair condition they word liberty is visable but worn. How did I do? By the way I paid $7 dollars each for the seated liberty's Thanks GunDoc999
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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GunDoc999....... Quote:But I am here in Afghanistan and would like to purchase some coins they have here, but as with all things I do not want to get ripped off. So I took a leap and bought for $4 an 1872 CC Trade dollar and I see now that they did not circulate until 1873. Is this still worth anything except the $4 I paid? First off.....thanks for your service to your country !...  The "Liberty Seated dollar" minted from 1840-1873 (motto and no motto) is minimally priced at $100.00 in it's "lowest grade condition" for the Blue Book value..(what dealers might pay)....so they would be worth considerably more than that ! Then the " Trade dollars" were minted starting in 1873 to 1885. These have "Blue Book" prices at no less than $50.00 for it's "lowest grade condition".....and again Blue Book prices are "wholesale" or "dealer" prices.....so your coins would be worth much more than that at market prices. Now if you payed such a low price for these......well....there's a couple of thoughts here. One, they are counterfeit.Two, the person you bought these from has no knowledge of coins and you just got the deal of a lifetime !These three coins are "all" Liberty Seated Dollars....."no motto" is 1840-1865 and "with motto" is 1866-1873.....(this motto is "In God We Trust" on a banner above the Eagles head. Your 1872 will have this and the 1844's will not have this motto.The 1872CC is worth THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN AVERAGE CONDITION ! The two 1844's are worth hundreds of dollars in average condition each. ...  ....  ...  I would say too, that if you would have some way to take some pictures of these coins with a digital camera, post them up here......we could better determine what you have here........ 
Edited by eaglefoot 06/19/2008 09:46 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote:So I took a leap and bought for $4 an 1872 CC Trade dollar and I see now that they did not circulate until 1873. Is this still worth anything except the $4 I paid? I also bought 2 1844 Seated Liberty dollars. Arrggg  I am seeing this stuff way too much lately. If you purchased them in Afghanistan and one of them was a fantasy piece that never existed, what would make you think the others have a chance of being authentic? Asia is a major source for low quality US counterfeits. If you go to just about any street market anywhere in Asia, the odds of seeing these fakes are pretty high. The seller may have no clue about the coins of another country or they could be knowingly selling the fakes to unsuspecting travelers. Luckily you paid a small amount for these coins. Many people in the US get ripped off for much more.
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Valued Member
United States
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Quote:O.K. Another rookie question? But I am here in Afghanistan and would like to purchase some coins they have here, but as with all things I do not want to get ripped off. So I took a leap and bought for $4 an 1872 CC Trade dollar and I see now that they did not circulate until 1873. Is this still worth anything except the $4 I paid? I also bought 2 1844 Seated Liberty dollars. After some research They seem to be in reasonably fair condition they word liberty is visable but worn. How did I do? By the way I paid $7 dollars each for the seated liberty's Honestly... first thing i'd do is see if they'll stick to a magnet. If so, they're worth nothing except as mementos. If not, a good photo would help the folks here tell you if they're real or not. i would strongly advise against buying any "valuable antiques" or designer goods in Afghanistan, India, China, etc...
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Valued Member
United States
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Buying coins from another country can be a good or very bad thing. Like others have said, there are a lot of fakes going around the market right now and you seem to be right in the middle of the area they originate in. If it seems too good to me true than 99.9% of the time it is. The only time I have bought US coins out of the states was in Canada and they were not hard to find pieces but with the currency exchange at the time ($1 US= $1.34 Canada) I could not pass up on some lower and mid range items, especially when they were going by US price guides. The best thing to do is educate yourself on what you want to buy and if you get stung by a bad piece that it will not kill your spending money. Since most of the items you bought were under $10 a piece this just may be a good lesson learned and time to move on.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hey Gundoc, load up on the local coinage. It's tougher to find Stateside and less likely to be fake. I've been collecting Afghan coins for a little over a year now and would be glad to help you identify your finds.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Coin shops aren't as great as you might think they are! I was under the impression they charge you more there - you should always ask them for a discount on their coins. Heritage auctions is generally higher due to the publicity of course. Now ebay is not to be dreaded from the buyer's perspective, just as long as you don't go outside of what you are willing to pay, though working out the right amount not to overstep is a tricky question and not one which is answered necessarily well by the price guides either. Just because a sought after coin is above the value written in your price guide doesn't mean it isn't worth it, as inaccuracies work in both directions. Of course more often you will see coins which tend to go for values under what the books say, which is where you should be opening your eyes a little more and refusing to pay the high prices listed in the books. Also, if a seller says a coin is in certain grade, don't trust him/her. Sellers lie about grades and thus you can be conned in this way.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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1. Coin shows. You can see what your buying. Make deals by haggling the prices. Get to know dealers personally. 2. Flea markets if there are coin dealers present. Basically the same reasons as a coin show. 3. Garage/yard/estate sales. Not estate auctions. Similar to coin shows where you can see the coins if there. Many don't know what they have. 4. Coin stores or hobby shops. 5. On line reputable dealers 6 Places like ebay but that is the last place anyone should go with.
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 United States
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Quote: 2. Flea markets if there are coin dealers present. Basically the same reasons as a coin show. After one of the local dealers was muscled out of his location (eminent domain abuse), he became semi-retired and set-up shop at a flea market. It worked out better for him in the end since he had more "walk-ins" than normal. Location, location, location!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have purchased hundreds of coins on ebay.Some expensive,some cheap and I have never had any issues yet. I have returned a total of two coins. The secret of buying off ebay is DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Make sure the seller has excellent feedback and return policy and that they take clear accurate pictures. Don't take the sellers word for the grade of a raw coin. Grade for yourself and only bid what you feel its worth. Try not to get into a bidding war as this is what drives the prices up on ebay. Honestly, a local dealer cannot compete with ebay. My local dealer (and we only have one) may have a total of 2000 coins at any one time. ebay will have 50k to 100k at any one time. Your selection and choice is so much larger on any type coin. If I'm looking for a specific coin,I want more that one or two choices. ebay gives me that. Yes, there's some shady dealers and counterfeit coins on ebay but if your an informed buyer you can avoid these sellers.You can be taken by a local dealer just as well as you can online.
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Valued Member
United States
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Id have to say ebay. Or a shop in your town where your a regular
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I can tell you ebay generally sucks for Lincoln's. I bid there regularly based on my best estimate of grade from the crappy pictures and CDN price lists. Lincoln's always go for more than CDN! If so many people are willing to over pay, then I cannot compete. I'll stick to my local dealer and coin shows for the fairest price and it allows me to grade the coin in hand.
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Valued Member
United States
61 Posts |
Hey Gundoc! I'm in the service also. Currently in the Apache course. Being a rookie myself in numismatics, I've found a very cheap way to kill some time and get a few good coins. I coin roll hunt pennies. a box is $25 and you can come across some interesting finds. So far I found 4 2000 wide AMs and a 1999D DDO! Also you can expect to find at least 5-10 wheat pennies per box. Think of it this way, if you find something good, keep it and put it in your collection. If you go through 2500 pennies and find no keepers....YOU STILL HAVE $25!! You can also go for quarter dime and half dollar rolls and score some silver but it's a little more on the pricey side. But, I'm sure you will have a few dollars burning a hole in your pocket when you come back to the states. Hope that helps.
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