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Guess The Morgan Grade

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 Posted 07/17/2018  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
Looks like a weakly struck no mint coin that may be worn. No way to tell from this one set of pictures.
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 Posted 07/17/2018  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list

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im gonna be crazy and say it hit 65

Nope.

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 Posted 07/17/2018  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Unable to grade from these photos.
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 Posted 07/17/2018  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list

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Looks like a weakly struck no mint coin that may be worn

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 Posted 07/18/2018  07:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morganman58 to your friends list
I would say MS 64, The weak strike would keep it from making 65.
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 Posted 07/18/2018  07:55 am  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
Not the most attractive toning, but I'd guess MS-64 based on the lack of surface marks. Tough to see behind the toning, though.
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 Posted 07/18/2018  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmwilson to your friends list
The resolution is too low. I think I know where this one is heading. So, I'll go out on a limb and say MS-66. If that scratch in the field, out in front of the upper lip, looks better in hand or is on the holder... I'll go MS-67.

I really don't see much in the way of scratches or dings, which is why I went out on a limb.

I have several NGC graded Morgans from the Olathe hoard that are heavily toned over the entire coin. They are a bit hard to grade as well. Many are 66 and 67. Paid a friggin' mint for them.
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 Posted 07/18/2018  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
Before I offer any opinion, is this your coin?
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 Posted 07/18/2018  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list

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Before I offer any opinion, is this your coin?
Yes. However it is not currently available for me to take additional pictures.
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 Posted 07/19/2018  08:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
I was going to ask for better images. Tough to grade a toned coin such as this one from these static images.
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 Posted 07/19/2018  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list
Well, here is the answer. The image quality is what Heritage provided at time of auction, with only the 2 images. Makes me wonder if the Seller was aware of this.

Needless to say, it sold at a discount to the same date and grade with better eye appeal at the time of auction.


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 Posted 07/19/2018  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
Looks overgraded. Imho, coins with such weak strikes should not grade gem. The hair is flat above the ear and in other parts of the hair, detail is missing. That is not an issue about eye appeal, but an objective issue about the quality of the coin.
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 Posted 07/19/2018  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nfine to your friends list
with what NS said.
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I can't say if it's over-graded or even under-graded but I sure wouldn't have paid MS66 money for it based on these images and you didn't...
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 Posted 07/20/2018  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmwilson to your friends list
Nailed it!

Like I said... I've seen this before. The eye appeal is lacking. However, the coin doesn't have lots of bag marks. Had the toning been "pretty" it would have sold at a premium rather than a discount.

The problem is that as humans we mix the subjective with the objective all the time (and it's hard to separate them). Also, we need a better grading system. Something with separate categories.


If PCGS offers a conservation service and would honor at least the same grade ... it might benefit.


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