Government Moves To Keep $3m In Liberty Dollars

Nope. Grew up middle class, so we made too much to qualify. Even as a poor grad student I made too much to qualify. That's why I've always wondered how people could be on Medicare.

hHabib - that's news to me. My dad always had medical coverage through his workplace, and as a veteran of the navy, so maybe that's why we never used it (and no we were never "off the grid". As for my grandparents, one grandfather died in their early 60's, two more in at around 90 and another one is going strong in her late 80s, so we're pretty blessed with longevity and good health. Still, it's nice to know that I qualify for Medicare should I ever find myself sick in the US. I learned something new today, and it wasn't about coins for once!

I agree libertyhead...immediately after the seizure the 1 oz. gold pieces with Ron Paul on the obverse were selling on ebay for around 900 bucks. I wish I could have swung the $ to buy one. I enjoy the histories of coins alot and I think this story offers a glimpse into our times as much as coins of former years did for theirs. Some day 100 or 200 years from now numismatists will be talking about the background behind these coins.

Will they be saying the Liberty Coins were the early stages of a movement against financial enslavement through inflation by the people in response to governmental indifference or malfeasance. Or, will they say they were just a fringe movement by a small group of anti-gov't extremists? History is being made daily if we are paying enough attention to appreciate it.

This just shows just afraid the private bankers, who occupy the Nation's currency- are of the common man finding out about their scam. The Liberty Dollar never claimed to be anything but an old fashioned SILVER cert or real coin. The private bankers, including the queen of england- who print the garbage, and trash coinage- are leading you and your fiat pocket money into destruction.
Bankers are a poison on the Nation.
A quick look into American coins shows that since 1965 shows how bad they are stealing from US. Hell, even the IRS is an offshore corporation- just like the "federal" reserve.

The attack on the Liberty Dollar was an attack on FREEDOM.

As many have stated, the Fed is simply afraid of losing its "customers"....however forced their customers may be. Its definitely true that the word "dollar" and the inclusion of Dr. Paul (or more precisely the philosophy, flawed or not, he represents) set them off. The word "dollar," in NORFED's case, is used as a unit of measurement, as was the original useage of the word in the American language. The definition has since, obviously, gone through a Orwellian-esque transformation over the past 200+ years and no longer has anything to do with measurements. Right or wrong, the Fed (and their bunkies in the Congress) will not tolerate any competition and will do all they can to keep competitors at bay.

My opinion is quite simple--who cares? If NORFED (or Dr. Paul for that matter) wants to use the Liberty Dollar (or bullion of any sort) let them. If the system of sivler-barting is superb to that of the current fiat system we in the mainstream society currently use then it will justly triumph, as the market will have it. If not, it is of little concern to me or to you (or the gov't). If a voluntary gold/silver standard is inferior to that of a paper system, what does Uncle Sam care if people wish to discover that fact on their own? If it is a better system, why do they wish to destroy it? Quite frankly, what business is it of the Beltway what's in my wallet? Live and let live is what I say.


BUT.... just remember that it might be tough to pick up a bottle of shaving cream without a few greenbacks


--Gary (who is glad he finally found the time to post again)


EDIT: as a side note, I have yet to receive any help in paying medical expenses nor can the roads in NYC ever be said to be well taken care of. As a nice little tidbit, for those who are interested, there is no federal law stating that you have to pay your Federal Taxes. The 16th amendment grants the Congress to power to directly tax the people (which flies in the face of the entire concept of the federation) but no law has ever been issued where the congress actually puts the power into practice. While I STRONGLY do not recommend not paying your taxes, its certainly interesting to note

I remember someone else in Hawaii did this and also has a law case on-going.

What they are trying to do is once again make the US MONEY ACTUALLY WORTH IT"S VALUE.

The current currency epically paper money is really worthless I am sure anyone out there that is over the age of 50 knows what I am talking about. Not saying anyone under the age of 50 would not know either:)

I hope they win that case but know they will not. But I remember reading the person in Hawaii that started this some years back was a retired treasury professional and he was trying to say let's make the USA currency actually worth it's value again. Or at least have the gold and silver to back it up.

Just my 2 cents..

As an interesting sidebar to this story, Here is a gentleman who has had similar dealings with the feds..http://the-moneychanger.com/dangerous.phtml

Not really the same scenario, but the gov't gets very nasty when dealing with those trying to circumvent the Ponzi Scheme they have laid out.