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Advice For 1921 Alabama 2x2?

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 Posted 07/31/2018  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
It looks like a cast counterfeit to me. I would check the weight.
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 Posted 07/31/2018  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list
I put a collage here to compare. Where do you see any flags for a cast copy Dave? Other than a weak to no banner showing above the beak, right off, I didn't see too much discrepancy.
But now, the more I look at it, the lettering in HALF and BIBB and KILBY look funny and inconsistent and the roundness of the conjoined busts is irregular on the coin in question.
I tend to agree with you Dave, it at least looks suspicious now that you mention it.
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 Posted 07/31/2018  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
The surfaces are grainy and the wear pattern/ progression does not make sense. Look at the eagle's legs and the arrow fletchings or lack there of.. This would be expected of a G/VG graded coin?
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 Posted 07/31/2018  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list
The 2X2 is wrong size ( 2's are too large )
Stars are inconsistent in shape.
A magnet would possibly stick to it and I agree, weighing this should point out that it should be very close to 12.5 grams.
Hope you can send it back.

Good Eye Dave!
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 Posted 07/31/2018  2:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chattman3 to your friends list
Thank you all for the comments. Very helpful and insightful! Although not what I hoped to hear.

I will weigh it soon & post the results for confirmation. Bought it at an estate sale, relatively inexpensive. I doubt a return/refund will be possible...likely I bought some experience
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 Posted 07/31/2018  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
I don't think it's right either, but right or wrong, I just don't find it very attractive.
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 Posted 07/31/2018  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
Black toning, possibly applied, is unlikely to help the color. But at this point it doesn't matter.
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 Posted 07/31/2018  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddler to your friends list
The coin is not genuine. 2x2 is raised on your example and is pressed in on a real coin.
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 Posted 07/31/2018  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chattman3 to your friends list


Thanks everyone
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 Posted 07/31/2018  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mtuma3 to your friends list

The noses and the stars are red flags...
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 Posted 07/31/2018  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chattman3 to your friends list
Everyone's analysis has me nervous about another commemorative half dollar I bought at the same estate sale. A 1921 Pilgrim.

Thoughts on the authenticity of this coin? (should this question be a separate topic?)

I already sold the 1921 Pilgrim and feel obligated to offer buyer a refund if it's a fake too.


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 Posted 07/31/2018  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list
This would be a 1921 which is more rare than the undated Pilgrim.
All of the E's on the reverse look wrong to me and the crows nest is a blob on yours. The dot looks small on the left side of the obverse between PILGRIM and TERCENTENARY.
Not looking good but I applaud you for your honesty.



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 Posted 07/31/2018  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list

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should this question be a separate topic?


Likely yes - but we can discuss both of them here.

Appears by my eye that you were sold two non-authentic coins in that estate sale - both examples you have shown are replicas of genuine coins.
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I just saw corrosion, didn't even think authenticity - excellent group of members here as you probably know already!
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 Posted 08/06/2018  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beefer518 to your friends list

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The coin is not genuine. 2x2 is raised on your example and is pressed in on a real coin.


This was the first thing that jumped out at me. That 2x2 shoulda been filled with gunk with that much wear, so it had to be raised.
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