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Pre 82 Cents For Copper...

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 Posted 07/07/2008  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kabiye_Lady to your friends list
I don't believe massive melting will affect the numismatic value of pennies at all - at least not initially. IF the price of copper were to skyrocket and a penny became worth 10 cents, then you'd start seeing a lot of wheaties getting tossed in the fire. THAT might affect some dates and mint marks....
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 Posted 07/08/2008  12:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add neversuited1 to your friends list
I guess it's a win win. As long as we are already roll searching, starting to make sense to me. Thanks all!
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 Posted 07/08/2008  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TimJing to your friends list
This is a very interesting discussion. I've considered cherrypicking the coppers and looking for wheaties/interesting stuff before, maybe now would be a good time to do so. Couldn't hurt, I guess.
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 Posted 07/08/2008  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BobK to your friends list
I don't believe the LMC's will ever be worth more than melt value, no matter how high it gets and how many are melted. After all, you can still buy common walkers, Franklins, etc for pretty much melt prices.
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 Posted 07/08/2008  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chasinva69 to your friends list
but how can you ever realize the value of the copper in pennies if it is illegal to melt these coins? Are you thinking maybe someday it will be legal to melt them?
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 Posted 07/08/2008  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
Being illegal does not mean they are not being melted. I would be totally shocked if there were not people melting them.

I say the real value of not melting them is the same as the silver coins. They have a known quality and quantity of the metal in question. It is easier to sell a pound of 90% silver coins than it is a pound of raw silver, which would need to be assayed. If copper ever became "precious" like silver or gold, this would be a great way to trade it.
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 Posted 07/08/2008  2:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BobK to your friends list
Furthermore, just because it's illegal to melt them today doesn't mean it'll be illegal to melt them in the future; these things do have a way of changing.

BTW it's also currently illegal to export them in quantities greater than 100 or so, so people can't get around the melt ban that way.
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 Posted 07/08/2008  3:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daveg131 to your friends list
Also, making something "illegal" does not stop people from doing something.
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 Posted 07/08/2008  3:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bilbo to your friends list
I'm pretty sure the 'melt ban' is going to be temporary. They are just trying to avoid creating a shortage of cents and nickels. Once copper cents become an insignificant percentage of coins in circulation (enough time passes or enough new steel-or-whatever cents are in circulation), the ban will be lifted. I expect a similar scenario for nickels.

I also set aside my pre-82 cents. While it will never amount to much, I just can't spend coins that are worth twice face value. Probably because I'm old enough to remember when a cent still had a little bit of value.
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 Posted 07/08/2008  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 3stooges to your friends list
Since the pre-82 Lincolns look exactly like the plated zinc coins at a glance, I don't see any company or smelter buying them. It would be way too labor intensive and a huge hassle to sort them.
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 Posted 07/08/2008  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hockingzig to your friends list
Sorting is not that labor intensive if you use a Ryedale machine, that is how many hoarders are separating massive quantities of copper daily. From several folks I have talked to who use them they are very accurate and can do thousands of pennies a minute. Again, I have never used one, only know what I have been told.
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 Posted 07/09/2008  03:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add iconcoins to your friends list
My collection stays with me 'til they (whoever they are) drag me away screaming. It has taken me 50 years to accumulate (not hoard) my coins and develop them into a thing a beauty. All of you(I am sure) feel the same way otherwise we would not be here (there or wherever we are).Our sons and grandchildren are spellbound whenever we show them (probably doing their maths). Since my short time on this site I have had so much information, friendly advice and opportunities to chat with other persons who share my passion.
As always, thanks.
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 Posted 07/09/2008  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add neversuited1 to your friends list
Thanks to you Roger! It is people like you and all the others that makes this the Great Forum it is! It is true what you said regarding children and grandchildren. That is what got me interested in collecting. Seeing all those beautiful coins my grandfather would show me from his safe and always wondering what he wasn't showing me.. lol. I may be a hoarder, but I am a collector at heart. Thank you for your post, it brought back good memories. Thank you.
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 Posted 07/10/2008  07:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add iconcoins to your friends list
Hi, thanks for your comments. Just to reiterate my last posting on this topic, sometimes people just don't see the beauty when it is put in front of them. Probably because their interests are different, same as their likes and dislikes, different to ours. Ah well, we can always hope for a better world where people liked politicians, trusted lawyers and pigs flew!
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 Posted 07/10/2008  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add neversuited1 to your friends list
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