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Are Punches On Liberty's Head Market Acceptable (Sld)?

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 Posted 08/11/2018  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list
For some reason PCGS gives SLD's leniency on grade.
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 Posted 08/13/2018  08:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
I don't think they are punch marks, I think they are spots.
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 Posted 08/13/2018  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
I think spots too. PCGS would not miss punch marks. It looks cleaned and retoned, and the spots make it ugly.

I've created spotting in a matter of days with coin-to-coin pocket contact. Old silver is the worst, but copper does it too.

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 Posted 08/13/2018  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list
Even if they are spots, it still has pretty bad eye appeal.
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 Posted 08/14/2018  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list
Looking again, it could be spots, I don't see any depth. It didn't sell, so ask the seller if he will be reposting it and to either say they're spots/holes or to post an angled close-up to see if they have any depth.

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 Posted 08/14/2018  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list
I've seen worse sld's in straight graded holders and some with green beans. Definitely market acceptable.
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 Posted 08/14/2018  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Apparently, but market acceptable doesn't equate to an average market price.
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 Posted 08/15/2018  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add machine20 to your friends list
Update: The seller, who seems like a real nice guy, replied that they are indeed punches and provided this close up image


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 Posted 08/15/2018  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list
Ok now I see depth... you could have it conserved and fill (plug) the holes. It's been done before. But unless you want to experiment at being a metallurgist, I'd still walk away.

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 Posted 08/16/2018  08:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add machine20 to your friends list
These "started" holes don't bother me that much. I actually own 2 of them in comparable grade and was able to get them for much cheaper because of it. I've probably seen half a dozen others and they tend to be just a single indent about this size located above the head. I liken it to a chop mark and helps give me some belief in authenticity.
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 Posted 08/16/2018  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
You're right they are punches, this should never have straight graded, even with them being lenient or net grading. As spots I could see it grading, but not with deliberate, intentional damage.
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 Posted 08/16/2018  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list
This is a "details, damaged" coin in my opinion that should not straight grade.
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 Posted 08/16/2018  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Update: The seller, who seems like a real nice guy, replied that they are indeed punches and provided this close up image
Thank you for the follow-up.
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 Posted 10/29/2018  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add machine20 to your friends list
Here's another "started hole" near the same location. wonder if these are like chop marks to verify composition. why else would they not be drilled all the way through?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Estate-Fin...LH_Auction=1

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 Posted 10/29/2018  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmwilson to your friends list
With some circulation wear after the fact too.
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