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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If you send it in you'll easily get a 64 out of it.
If a big auction house sends it in they'll score a 65 out of it along with bells and whistles and stickers to boot!
(Yes, I'm a conspiracy theorist when it comes to grading results of coins sent in by regular Joes versus coins sent in by big auction houses! Grading is not anonymous----never has been, never will be!)
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Pillar of the Community
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That is natural looking pull away toning. Somoething to do with strike hardening and how the surfaces react after but I'm not exactly sure how it forms.
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09/05/2018 8:19 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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westernsky - with you 100%.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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westernsky, I believe what you describe is more fact than fiction!!! been there
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Rest in Peace
United States
10625 Posts |
I'm with all the 65's and that pull away toning is 100% natural. Very nice score!
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Pillar of the Community
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5682 Posts |
I'd also say 65. Great coin!
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Pillar of the Community
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Thank you all for your comments. I do plan to put together a PCGS submission and will include this piece. I'd be quite pleased with a 64 grade. Quote:
I see some parallel diagonal striations on the area above the ear which is flat as a pancake. As I recall from reading about strike weakness the flat areas resulting from an incomplete strike can show striations or scratches that were on the planchet. The incomplete strike does not obliterate those lines so they persist on the struck coin. The lines on this coin look exactly like the photos I've seen that show this effect. Hope that's the explanation, anyway! |
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United States
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MS-65. Great find and best of luck!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
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I am in at MS65. Beautiful coin. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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i can see it in as MS65 in a holder
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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MS-64 and I love the toning. Quote:
That is natural looking pull away toning. Somoething to do with strike hardening and how the surfaces react after but I'm not exactly sure how it forms. Good question, and hard to give a definitive answer. I believe that it is caused by the amount of metal flow from the rims in when the coin is struck. This is the area of greatest metal movement as the metal is pushed from the rims inwards to the point the relief begins (the stars and date). This surface area then becomes more resistant to toning. This explanation however does not explain why we only see it on certain dates and mintmarks. It has been proposed that during times of poor quality control at the specific mint, where the dies may not have been cleaned as often, the corresponding grease build up and subsequent transferral to the surface may play a role as well. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I got this coin back from PCGS very quickly considering I sent it in at the Economy tier. I'm a bit disappointed with their opinion. A dealer friend recommended I crack it and try NGC; he believes they would favor it for its originality and exceptionally clean cheek. If there is real potential for an MS-65 grade the effort would be worthwhile.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Wow, again very conservative on PCGS's part.
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