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Strange Symbol On This 1894 S Morgan And Washington Quarter

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 Posted 09/19/2018  5:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list


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 Posted 09/19/2018  7:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list
Somebody scratched their initial M into the coin, it is graffiti and considered damaged numismatically
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 Posted 09/20/2018  07:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CouchDiver1978 to your friends list
Thanks for the input guys!
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 Posted 09/20/2018  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
The initial on the Morgan is done by cutting into the coin at an angle to create a raise displacement of the metal. Sometimes pressure is applied to the raised feature to force it down slightly to close the cut. Can't be sure but it looks like the cuts are on the right side of the lines. Also closely examine the areas where the lines cross each other. Those areas usually show best how it was done. We have seen this many times.
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 Posted 09/21/2018  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list
Whomever scratched that Morgan may have been the same
person that worked on this Morgan.

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 Posted 09/25/2018  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
I'm pretty sure the Washington quarter was made with a scratched die, a very minor error, not really worth any premium (except maybe to a very few), most collectors want the best coins they can find, ones without errors like this, while others that collect by die variety use them to help differentiate various dies.
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 Posted 09/26/2018  1:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
No because the A and the P below it show an incuse line through them. The coin is scratched not the die.
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 Posted 09/28/2018  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
Sure looks raised to me.
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 Posted 09/29/2018  09:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Look at the lighting, See how the letters are lit on the side toward the bottom of the picture and dark on the side toward the top of the picture. Then look at the line through the A. It is dark on the bottom edge and light on the top edge. Exactly the opposite of the lettering which we now is raised.
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 Posted 09/29/2018  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Scratched die on the quarter and graffiti on the Morgan.
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 Posted 10/01/2018  08:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
One other thing, if it was a scratched die how do you scratch the recessed area of the A and the recessed area of the P but NOT scratch the raised field between them?
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 Posted 10/02/2018  12:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CouchDiver1978 to your friends list
Thanks for all the feedback guys! Although the issue with the Morgan is unfortunate, I'm encouraged by the possibility that the mark on the quarter could have resorted from a fault in the die.

Cheers!
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 Posted 10/03/2018  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list
Could someone please point out what's going on with the quarter? Sorry, but all I see area few dings and scratches....
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 Posted 10/03/2018  1:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Right leg of the A and the P below it. I say the coin is scratched, others here believe the die was scratched. In my previous posts I explain why I believe the coin is scratched.
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 Posted 10/03/2018  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list
Looks like post minting damage (scratches) to me. I agree with your analysis on why this is PMD.
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