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Moderator
 United States
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Excellent coins Bob. I particularly like the Kamnaskires IV. Congrats.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Great job! You know your stuff. Happy for you.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Always a treat to see your Parthians and Elymais coins. Very nicely done! I sometimes wish my interests weren't so diverse so I could pick up nice coins like those Elymais tets!
Quite the wordy Aramaic legend on the last one... any idea what it says?
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks, all. Quote: ...Aramaic legend on the last one... King Kamnaskires-Orodes, son of King OrodesOrodes I (of Elymais, not the Parthian king of that name) ruled before his frizzy haired son here.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Ok, I get it "C/M" stands for counter mark - guess I'm still learning. Thanks everyone for being patient.
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Pillar of the Community
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Great pickups! Congrats. As for the catalog description of the reverse of the third, Quote: Elongated pellets in regular pattern , I'm not sure I'm buying it. It made me think of this (some of our Belgian friends may recognize it, though I've taken the liberty of a 90 degree rotation): 
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Pillar of the Community
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The dashes on the reverses of Elymaean coins, as seen on a number of emissions of drachms and tets of the Elymais Arsacid Dynasty, constitute one of the big mysteries in Elymaean numismatics. If interested, the speculations of various scholars regarding the dashes was summarized by Ed Dobbins on pages 44 and 45 of the August 1992 Celator: https://community.vcoins.com/celator-vol-06-no-08/
Edited by Kamnaskires 09/28/2018 5:53 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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Bob L : congrats , you have a superb collection of this coins and you are still finding beautiful coins . I am really jealous  . tdziemia : ok , i'll be there tomorrow at noon , I like it with cheese,ham , salad and mayonnais and a little rose if it is warm enough.  albert
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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Great coins Bob!
Real rarity the first one, is it a plate coin?
Lovely detail on the Kamnaskires IV obverse..How many portrait styles depicting his aging are there?
Super portrait on the third coin..this guy is scary....nice to see it with the legend around.
Congrats on the new pickups Bob..you must be down to rarer rulers now?...Paul
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks for the comments, Paul. No, the first one isn't a plate coin - it's unpublished. Based on my research it is the fifth to hit the market since 1996. I believe that all share the same obverse die, but I've noted at least two reverse dies among that group. Regarding your second question, van't Haaff lists three different age types for Kamnaskires IV: young, middle-aged, and old. He actually lists my coin above as the old type, although it seems middle-aged by today's reckoning. Here is my "young" (van't Haaff type 8.1) coin, which I've posted at CCF before. It's one of my favorites in my collection:  Quote: ..you must be down to rarer rulers now? Well, my Holy Grail as far as Elymaean coins go is to acquire a coin from the so-called "Early Kamnaskirid Dynasty," meaning a coin of Kamnaskires I Soter, Kamnaskires II Nikephorus, or one the usurpers: Okkonapses, Tigraios, or Dareios. It is extremely unlikely that I will get one of these, though. They are exceedingly rare and very expensive. I have only ever seen two for sale: a curious Kamnaskires II Nikephorus that has been listed at Ma-Shops for some time, and a tragically tooled Kamnaskires I that has been on ebay forever, it seems. The one at Ma-Shops gives me pause since the reverse Greek legend, which should have said "Kamnaskires," seems to have been scratched away completely. This leaves me to wonder if it is a recently-reworked Seleucid issue, which the die engravers of the early period in Elymaean history copied. Other than legends, the reverses of the early Elymaean tets were typologically the same as the Apollo-seated-on-omphalos examples of a number of the Seleucid kings. I don't know if something shady is going on with that coin at Ma-Shops, but it makes me nervous.
Edited by Kamnaskires 09/30/2018 10:15 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks for the answers Bob...I think the engravers were good on this particular ruler keeping a likeness through the years..Lovely young portrait too...  Took a look at the ma-shops coin, glad you know your stuff, at that price you would want to be 100% sure and to my untrained eye it does seem odd!
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Valued Member
Canada
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Congratulations Bob! Very happy that you got that. was it from VAuctions? I think I saw this one and thought of getting it too . I also won an Arsakes I coin in last CNG auction which had a great provenance (Atrek 1965 Hoard). 
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Valued Member
United States
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Wonderful pickups Bob. Congratulations.
Steve S.
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