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Cleaned 1928 Peace Dollar

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 Posted 09/02/2008  01:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ralph to your friends list
I posted these scans in another thread before I realized just where I'd started my original message.
I thought I'd post an update for those of you who showed an interest in it before. It's been about a month and a half since I first posted this message, and I've been carrying this coin around in my pocket since then. This is what she looks like now. I think I'll carry it for awhile longer - still shinier than I want, and, too, I kind of like the idea of having it for a pocketpiece.


Ralph

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 Posted 09/02/2008  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list
Ralph, I have to agree that it's looking closer to a coin with original surfaces now. Shiny is bad...real bad. Some will say don't mess with it, but they don't have to worry about looking at the coin with unnatural surfaces and potential resell. Ironically enough, even in a slightly lower grade, that coin without the unnatural shine will probably sell for more.
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 Posted 09/02/2008  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list
Sometimes I get the impression that almost every single silver coin in Poland has been cleaned. When you want to buy something, it's a question of not cleaned or not cleaned, but HOW cleaned..

I have a 1610s coin that's so shiny that I thought it's a copy. According to a knowledgable dealer it's original and matches perfectly with the pictures and images from the reference books. However, it's so white that it looks like made of chalk, not metal. For the last 10 years it hasn't changed a bit, it's so darn white!
The main problem is that a non-cleaned coin like this is supposedly worth $60-70.. what would mean nice coins to add to my collection - but nobody wants to buy it.

The ones that aren't cleaned are usually those dug up from the ground..

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09/02/2008 10:23 am
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 Posted 09/02/2008  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1sikevo to your friends list
Ralph,
Since I was just the victim of an altered 1928 (it was a 1928-S with the mintmark removed), I would check all the diagnostics to make sure it's genuine. There were only 3 obverse dies used on the genuine coin. From some stats I heard, as much as 1 in 5 raw 1928-Ps on ebay are fake.
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 Posted 09/02/2008  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list

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The ones that aren't cleaned are usually those dug up from the ground..


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 Posted 09/02/2008  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ralph to your friends list
1sikevo - the seller offered the coin with a full money back guarantee. I've eyeballed the area where a mint mark would be under a 20X glass, and see no signs of hanky-panky. I'm satisfied that it's the real deal.
I'm not sure what diagnostics you are referring to - seems to me the 1928 and the 1928S would be the same weight and size. I've looked in my Van Allen/Mallis encyclopedia and theres no mention of a difference in the reverse design in regards to the 1928 and 1928S. Can you point me in the direction you are referring to when you mention diagnostics?

Ralph

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 Posted 09/02/2008  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
One has a discernable rim, the other doesn't. You can catch your fingernail on it.
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 Posted 09/02/2008  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1sikevo to your friends list
Ralph,
There are specific dies (3 to be exact)used on on the 1928-P. These dies leave their miniature signatures, like a fingerprint.
Here are the diagnostics for the 28-P
http://www.oicoins.com/index_files/Page679.htm

FWIW, my seller had a guarantee too for a full refund (which I'm getting) but it's not to say that every coin is genuine.
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09/02/2008 6:16 pm
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 Posted 09/02/2008  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
All a guarantee means is if they're caught, they give you your money back.

Like stores that price match. Why should I spend my time jumping thru hoops for the privilege of being "allowed" to buy at the price the other guy will sell to anyone for?
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 Posted 09/02/2008  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ralph to your friends list
Okay - after knowing what to look for, and where to look, I can say it is "for sure" a 1928. The line in the hair is visible under magnification. Cool!

Ralph
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 Posted 09/03/2008  01:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1sikevo to your friends list
Glad you confirmed it was real. I could not find any on my original 1928 plus there was a little off-colored spot where the mintmark was. I returned it and got a PCGS certified one for about the same price.
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 Posted 09/05/2008  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add myprecious to your friends list
I got a 1928 Peace off ebay recently, and it was advertised without mention of a mint mark while others in the auction were... but when it came, it had a nice little S in the reverse corner. Fortunately, I paid about $15 for it, so I didn't feel too cheated. I had to resist the urge to ask the seller, because I didn't want to raise the suspicion... hah :) Still a good looking coin. I'm a big fan of the Peace.
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09/05/2008 4:51 pm
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 Posted 09/05/2008  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daviscfad to your friends list
Ralph I think its a nice Peace dollar!
1sikevo thanks for the info
OFF to check my 1928 peace dollar
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 Posted 09/05/2008  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daviscfad to your friends list
my peace of mine
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09/05/2008 6:15 pm
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 Posted 09/06/2008  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brewzz to your friends list
Thanks for the link 1sikevo...I am looking for the 1928-P as well.It's the last one I need to complete my set,and that will help me to avoid getting screwed..
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