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How Do You Grade A Rare, But Holed Coin?

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 Posted 07/20/2008  02:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list
Thanks SuperDave!
If your well crafted assumption is correct then it fits with my own opinion. That being that the hole reduces the value of the details grade by half. You say F-15 details? Fair enough. I couldn't decide between F or VF.
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07/20/2008 02:45 am
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 Posted 07/20/2008  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list
Actually, grade is almost meaningless for damaged coins. You just have to price it. I have a very difficult time trying to do this with similar coins. I once sold an 1877 Indian cent (a few years ago) for $75 that looked like a Mack truck ran over it and then dragged it along the asphalt for a few miles.

Personally, I don't want to own any damaged coin, no matter what the "grade" or price. It's just too distracting. For instance, that 1869, for me, would be a lot more attractive as a problem-free AG than as a holed AU.
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07/20/2008 10:14 am
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 Posted 07/20/2008  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter53562 to your friends list

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Personally, I don't want to own any damaged coin, no matter what the "grade" or price. It's just too distracting. For instance, that 1869, for me, would be a lot more attractive as a problem-free AG than as a holed AU.


I second this. If I get holed coins, I try to move them out of my collection regardless if I need them to fill a set or not.
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 Posted 07/20/2008  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list
I would typically get rid of holed and damaged coins. But with the rarity here, I just don't know. Probably will keep it for a while.
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07/20/2008 4:09 pm
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 Posted 07/23/2008  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1sikevo to your friends list
I have 1 repaired coin in my collection. It was well done and quite deceptive to the untrained eye (like me when I bought it).
I decided to keep it since it wasn't a distraction and probably several hundreds less than a same coin with original surfaces.
I have since had it certified by ANACS.
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 Posted 07/23/2008  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwhitman to your friends list
1sikevo,
Is the slab marked repaired?
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 Posted 07/23/2008  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1sikevo to your friends list
Yes, it's marked on the slab.
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 Posted 07/23/2008  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list
It's a good thing that ANACS will even grade a repaired or damaged coin.
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 Posted 07/25/2008  07:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add groganking to your friends list
I noticed that in the upcoming U.S Coin Auction by Heritage at the Baltimore show, they are offering an 1820 North West Brass Token that was graded by PCGS as Fine 12 which is holed at 12 o'clock. Heritage says most of these coins were so holed, but it makes you wonder just how PCGS makes its decisions on whether to grade or not.
It's also interesting that the hole in your coin is right at one of the thir stars on the obverse. Maybe someone wanting to make a political statement....
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 Posted 07/25/2008  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list
Hi Groganking,
I actually figured that spot would be the least intrusive. A hole anywhere else would certainly affect the legends and/or the portraits on either side.
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 Posted 07/25/2008  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
I have seen people build a whole 7070 album out of holed coins only, which was pretty impressive when you think about it so people do buy holed coins for their collection and some people would never be able to afford certain coins in certain dates if there werent problems with the coin
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 Posted 07/26/2008  10:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sfwusc to your friends list
I love the Seated coins. I would keep it. I still say nice coin.

-SWUSC
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 Posted 07/29/2008  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add e-baguio to your friends list

the coin has been formerly owned by a boy
just kidding..

got many like of those coins here in the Philippines.. USPI coins which were holed to be used as a necklace especially in the provinces where jewelers are a rarity..

little boys love them heavy coins dangling in their neck as it was just like a "anting-anting"

anting-anting = lucky charm
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 Posted 07/29/2008  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list
Thanks for that bit of cultural insight! =)
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 Posted 07/29/2008  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ralph to your friends list
Hole or no hole, it's still a scarce coin, and worth keeping. If it's your intention to sell the coin at a later date, I think it would be a good idea to send it off to ANACS to have it graded and slabbed - somebody, somewhere down the road will want it.
Coin Calues has it listed at $600. in F-12, so you can factor in the hole, and still come up with a nice price for your coin.

Ralph
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