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1858 O Seated Half Mistake?

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 Posted 12/12/2018  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list
Crack it out and see if/how it retones over a year or more. That may allow a straight grade unless there are obvious hairlines. Either way, value raw and value in its current holder probably about the same.
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 Posted 12/12/2018  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
Most of us have been there.....lesson learned.
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 Posted 12/12/2018  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Keith67 to your friends list
not going to do anything to try to change the coin. its setting on display with the rest of my coins. I still love her.
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 Posted 12/12/2018  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Good attitude.
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 Posted 12/12/2018  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list
Been there; done that.
Another of life's lessons, hopefully learned.
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 Posted 12/12/2018  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
It's a pretty decent coin for "cleaned" -- I wouldn't be ashamed of it.
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 Posted 12/12/2018  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Heymikep to your friends list
Did you get this coin slabbed as an MS60 and you broke it out hoping to get a better grade? Or was it raw?
To me this coin looks like it could be an MS Details coin and not an AU Details coin from the pics. I do not see any wear on this coin. Am I missing something? Maybe my eyes are deceiving me.
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 Posted 12/13/2018  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Keith67 to your friends list
It was raw
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 Posted 12/13/2018  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
A bright coin with that many hairlines usually means it's been cleaned. Still a nice looking coin and if it were not in the slab and sat in an album for a few years, would start to tone down.
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 Posted 12/14/2018  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list

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A bright coin with that many hairlines usually means it's been cleaned. Still a nice looking coin and if it were not in the slab and sat in an album for a few years, would start to tone down.


I thoroughly concur. I use some old coin envelopes on occasion, precisely for that purpose. I have a some similar coins stored as such for year. A few have toned nicely, some not.

IMHO, our OP's coin has super sharp details and, despite the hairlines, great eye-appeal. Earlier this year, I sold a most similar piece, dated 1861, to a dealer for $180. He felt he could make some money on such a sharply struck type coin. It's all about the eye of the beholder, methinks.
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 Posted 12/15/2018  11:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list
Indeed, still a nice coin with decent eye appeal. Another tell-tale sign to look for on cleaned coins in general is the lack of cartwheel luster in high grades.
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 Posted 12/17/2018  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add machine20 to your friends list
Really nice for a details coin
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Almost everyone who has submitted coins to the TPG's has received the Details Cleaned grade. I have a couple Details Cleaned that are head scratchers on why or how the coin was cleaned. Learn how to tell orginal coins with market appeal and you will make better purchases. You can not depend 100% on the TPG' s when it comes to buying coins that have not been cleaned.
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Building off with what Mike F said -Ive had coins graded straight go details then I submit the same coin again and it goes straight. Ive had a real nice Seated quarter go from 55 to ms details back to 55. All in a 2 month period. Tpgs are definitely all over the place. Your coin is nice, but when buying raw coins it is best to consult with at least one additional pair of eyes to confirm what you are seeing.
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A 19th century silver coin that white needs lots of luster. It doesn't have it in the images.

Another note about AU Details vs MS Details. AU+ coins often have no visible "wear". High AU coins should have nothing more than luster breaks and/or rubs in the patina. Looking for wear in images of AU55 or AU58 coins is often a fool's errand.

The sad fact is loose grading standards have many AU50 or 53 coins in 55 and 58 holders. And, as noted above, standards have recently tightened somewhat.
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