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1855 S Seated Liberty Quarter With Restored Date.

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 Posted 12/19/2018  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ty88ty2 to your friends list
Oh, that might explain why you weren't able to get it off. I was surprised at first some of the gray wouldn't come off when you rubbed at it. I've found it comes off so easily I didn't even think to mention it.
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 Posted 12/20/2018  12:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
I wonder if you could do something like this with infrared, UV, or some other photo/scan/whatever technique without the permanent effects. It reminds me of my aunt getting images made from a tintype of a Civil War ancestor, where the original is nearly black with not much of anything discernible, but the resulting copies were very clear. Not that it's worth the expense, just pondering.
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 Posted 12/20/2018  12:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add llewellin to your friends list
I've mentioned this several times in the past, but there are microscopes that can clearly read the dates from completely dateless coins without using any of these destructive chemicals.
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I've mentioned this several times in the past, but there are microscopes that can clearly read the dates from completely dateless coins without using any of these destructive chemicals.


Do you have any links to these sort of scopes? I'd be interested.
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 Posted 12/20/2018  07:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jadey to your friends list
I'd be interested in hearing about the microscope as well.
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 Posted 12/20/2018  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
I couldn't find anything on-line about using microscopy to recover a date on a coin.

The recovered 4 on my dollar looks ghosted. I tried to improve its appearance by viewing under a black light, then by oiling the coin, then by vinegaring, and finally by applying some fireplace soot. None of these improved the appearance, and after all this the 4 disappeared again.

Another drop of test solution brought the 4 back again. All I can guess is that it works by selectively etching higher and lower density metal around the numerals, and that what is seen is a differential etch on a completely smooth surface. It will always be a ghost of a 4...the strike is never coming back...

The solution also caused a few of the worn-off letters on the reverse to appear. But it did not bring back details that are deeply worn off.
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 Posted 12/20/2018  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ty88ty2 to your friends list
How long did you let the acid etch your coin to know for future reference?
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 Posted 12/20/2018  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add llewellin to your friends list
There is some literature demonstrating the acoustic microscope to image details on coins that were sanded flat. A previous topic on this site can be found here:

http://goccf.com/t/78162&whichpage=1

Takeaway is this is a specialized piece of equipment that is not common enough for everyone to get their hands on. If you have a friend that works in a materials lab however they might have access.
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 Posted 12/20/2018  10:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Doesn't bother me one bit. Money wasn't my intentions. Curiosity was!
Well done.
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 Posted 12/20/2018  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
I put the coin in a glass ashtray and squeezed enough test solution on to cover it. I waited for the solution to go cloudy (less than 10 seconds), then flushed it out under running water in a sink.

Do NOT touch the solution with bare skin.
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Don't let curiosity kill the thq
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I put the coin in a glass ashtray and squeezed enough test solution on to cover it. I waited for the solution to go cloudy (less than 10 seconds), then flushed it out under running water in a sink.

Do NOT touch the solution with bare skin.


Gotcha. I think that some of the details on liberty might show up in the same ghostly appearance of the 4 if you soaked it for longer. I've been doing my SLQ's and the Seated quarter here for 30ish seconds, well after the solution turns cloudy. Its more of a pinkish when I take it off if I recall correctly. That being said, you polished yours and it might have changed the surface enough to change how the acid reacts to it and its likely not worth the time... but science!
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 Posted 12/20/2018  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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Nice to know the date but coin is of little value.

Is it of greater or lesser value than what it was when it didn't have a date?


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I thought it was an 1843, but it's an 1844.

I could tell it was a 44 from the before picture.


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It's pretty darn aggressive.

Not surprising, it's composed of Muriatic acid and Nitric acid. That's Aqua Regia and at the right concentration it will even dissolve gold and platinum.
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After sitting for a few hours several more obverse details are visible, though white and ghostly....the entire cap and pole, Liberty's compete head, some of the drapery and both legs in her lap. No shield.
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After sitting for a few hours several more obverse details are visible, though white and ghostly....the entire cap and pole, Liberty's compete head, some of the drapery and both legs in her lap. No shield.


Interesting..
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