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Lhc Dilemma - Need Help And Ideas

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 Posted 08/07/2008  11:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I would definitely move the coins out of the folder and into a proper album. Dansco is my recommendation since that is what I use.

Moving them to the 2x2s with plastic sheets that BadThad mentions is a good suggestion as well. You might even come out cheaper since you can buy them in bulk and you do not have to get a fancy binder.

Whatever you choose, your cents will be better off than they are in these or any folders.
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 Posted 08/07/2008  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mklpatrick to your friends list
Where do you guys get your 2x2s in bulk?
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 Posted 08/07/2008  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rainman to your friends list
I use 1 1/2 X1 1/2 Flips and pages for smaller coins. A 1 1/2 pages hold alot more coins. I get mine from a local coin store Flips are 100 for $5.00 and $1.00 a page. You can also get them from on line dealers.

Seeking :Bags for my binders (Good Idea Thad)

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 Posted 08/07/2008  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add penny pincher to your friends list
The Whitman and Harris folders are good for just starting out or lower grade coins. The reason I say this is that these coins with always be exposed to the elements, people touching them and of course the glue issue mentioned before. The Whitman's with plastic slides and you can see both sides are okay but for real protection you want to find something that will keep as much of the environment out as possible. The Dansco folders may be a good place to look where there is some minor damage and it sounds as if these may not be the highest grade where they were taken from change. But if you want them to really last, then take Badthad's advice and find an airtite that you like.

I am not 100% sure but I think this is what most people are referring to: http://www.wizardcoinsupply.com/pro...ock-2x2.html
This is also a great site for all types of supplies and resources.
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 Posted 08/07/2008  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list
Im not sure what you mean by rubbed down ,, the coins do not move in the holes of the folder ?

can you post a picture or two ?

I have coins that have been in whitmans for close to 40 years with no ill effects .

I hear about coins being damaged from the folders but if I had to guess its not so much the folders as the environment that the folders and coins are stored in .
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 Posted 08/07/2008  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list

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I get them at my local grocery store! They have a couple brands including ZipLock. They are SUPER giant, I can fit two 3-ring binders stuffed with pages into just one bag....and there's still room. LOL
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 Posted 08/07/2008  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list

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I hear about coins being damaged from the folders but if I had to guess its not so much the folders as the environment that the folders and coins are stored in .


Agreed....it's all in how the folder is stored IMO too.
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 Posted 08/07/2008  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mklpatrick to your friends list
I'll snap some pics and post them tonight, if I get a chance. I may not be describing the condition of the reverses properly.
Actually these folders have been sitting on closet shelves for virtually 50 years.
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 Posted 08/07/2008  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list
OK I will check for pics when I get home from work .

Closet shelves un protected is not a good thing ! changes in humidity ,temperature and not to mention the gasses which are present in most closets , from cloth, papers ,leather whatever all contribute to the condition of the coins stored in such a manner .

I keep my folders triple wrapped in aluminum foil , and stored in a stable cool dry environment .

the aluminum foil is controversial , and was shown to me by a long time collector back in the 60's when whitmans were pretty much all that was available as far as folders or albums are concerned ,,but for me it has worked well and the coins look just like the day I put them in as a kid .

I was lucky to have a mentor who believed and knew that storage was paramount to having a collection which retains its beauty and value ,,years can be cruel to coins left to the elements .

He also never polished His coins which was the norm to some degree then nor did He lacquer his cents which also occurred with some regularity by the old collectors .

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 Posted 08/07/2008  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list

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I would definitely move the coins out of the folder and into a proper album


......definately agree with that !......really the "display" is sooooooo much better too and more protective (though still not airtight in albums).....storage, as mentioned, is very key. Aluminum foil, Ziplocks......any of these should be used regardless of what "folder" or "album" you pick...IMHO.
Long term storage in a "bad spot" can lead to devestating results for the condition of coins !...

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Sorry for being "off topic" for a second.......

Hey Rick !....How are the wounds healing from the electricity accident ?......hope yer' doing alright Bud !...
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 Posted 08/07/2008  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list
Im doing good thus far , outside is healed inside is still sore but improving !

Thanks for asking !
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 Posted 08/07/2008  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list
....Good !....glad to hear it !..
Figured you might have made a bike trip to Sturgis to "heal" for a week..!
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 Posted 08/07/2008  7:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rainman to your friends list
After replying to this post about zip lock bags I remembered I have a lot of vacuum seal cloths bags that we use for travel that may be a good option. They come in large sizes and seal air tight with a shop vac. One more note about the 2" Flip pages hold 20 coins - 1 1/12 flip pages hold 30.

Seeking :Why do you use 2" for coins smaller than a quarter?

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 Posted 08/07/2008  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
First of all remember the terminology of the item. A folder is just that, a coin holding folder. An album is usually considered an item where the pages open similar to a wedding album, both sides of the coins are visable and they are enclosed with plastic slides.
There is nothing really wrong with folders except a few minor things. For one the glue as noted on the rear of the slots. Some coins are well worn and they tend to fall out of the slots so people wet the glue and the coins now stay in place. Some of those slots are tight so people have a tendency to push them into the slots with their thumbs or even a small rubber or plastic hammer. I've heard of people also using a brass hammer to push the coins into those slots. If you were to take a cut away view of the slots you would see the part that touches the rear is larger than the part farthest away from the rear making it necessary to force a coin into place.
If these folders are kept in a damp invironment, the glue will slowly absorb some of the moisture.
Any and all of the above is not the best for a coin.
Albums are OK regardless of the brand depending on how they are stored also. I've got well over 100 Whitman Classic Albums and each is encased in a Zip Lock Plastic Bag. I've got no problems with coins for well over 60 years now.
If for some reason any of my coins are effected by this method of storing in the next few hundred years I'll let you know.
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