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Paisa, the numbering that PCGS used is not right, To be a specimen note is supposed to have no serial number or 0000000 ,it is supposed to have front and back on the same note, with or without signatures. BUT in all cases you need to have all the other characteristics of a real note.
It is not the first time that PCGS create funny reference number.
Good observation Paisa, I mist that one.
Regent LM59 canadian paer money society
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PCGS would have done their research on this note before putting their reputation on it and it's really costly for these types of notes to be slabbed I don't think anyone is questioning whether PCGS has done their research or not. I think like in any collecting it is only when this information is made public and shared and verified that the collectable has any real value IMHO. When neither the BoC nor the GPMC is making any referene to this thing and yet PCGS is using a reference based on the GPMC numbering system should in itself be a red flag to any collector. At the very least they should either question PCGS or they should question GPMC if not the BoC. It is known that the printing companies might develop things that are related to the bank notes and which are not commissioned by the Bank of Canada as such and therefore were never a property of Bank of Canada. To provide any description that suggests this is something official approved by Bank of Canada IMHO would be considered improper practices - PCGS or anyone else. I think someone owes the numismatic community a disclosure about the research. |
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The BOC is very strict on their notes and trials and such items, I was kind of surprised the BOC didn't ask Heritage to pull the two proof and essay from this years FUN sale. Also they believe almost anything that escapes still are their property, so asking them for info is almost impossible, but if you collect these things this looks exactly like a BOC prototype design product. There is a really cool De La Rue Canada 125 dollar note with BOC security strips that was purposed for Canada's 125 birthday, would have been really cool to been issued but to get info on this is near impossible also very hard to find in the market place, NGC has pics on their forum, apparently there are 6 different versions, what's cool is the BOC security strip and of course the amount 125 dollar
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04/01/2019 9:47 pm
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I agree with John , it is almost impossible to have information ,on trial pieces, neither from BOC or the printer company. It seems that for old series 35-37-54-86 BOC are not looking for those notes because they are no security issues.
Regent
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To provide any description that suggests this is something official approved by Bank of Canada IMHO would be considered improper practices Is this any different than some of the questionable error/varity coins that come out of the RCM? All the 1967 double/triple struck coins This looks like an actual part of the process. |
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Effectively it is part of the process of an old serie ,I have a 1$ 1898 dominion of canada complete 13-piece note development collection,that was part of the american bank note company archives, and was sold in 2015
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These trials, proofs, essays are really only collectable because they have BOC on the note or in the De La Rue Canada 125 note a BOC security strip, this infer the bank mote companies had the BOC approval, some pf these were released through the big 2000 archive sales ok by BOC. The big difference between the RCM is they for no rhyme or reason just pick and choose who they go after, like the recent overstruck 1967 dollar due to RCM inactions they sell for crazy prices I guess to newbies who think they are RCM products. The BOC seems to overly protect their products anything with Bank of Canada on it or their security strips you are sure they were sanctioned before the bank note companies made design or actual notes. Edited by john100
04/03/2019 2:09 pm
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These trials, proofs, essays are really only collectable because.. ('  ') Some good points "John100" + as you, "Regent" & others suggested in terms of how they reveal the history of a note's inception. Personally, I happen to really admire this series so was drawn to the uniqueness of this prototype. With note in hand I'm sure I could learn more about some of the note's design elements, security features and paper. |
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effectively when I look at those types of note,I find interesting to see how they work on a new serie
regent Lm 59 CPMS
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or in the De La Rue Canada 125 note a BOC security strip, this infer the bank mote companies had the BOC approval, some pf these were released through the big 2000 archive sales ok by BOC @john100 - Would you be so kind enough to provide any links to any photos or such of these things. I would like to make an inquiry to the Bank of Canada to see what they have to say. Has there been anything written on this in the Canadian Paper Money Journal or any of the Numismatics publications? If so would really appreciate if anyone can point to any information on these notes |
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I was kind of surprised the BOC didn't ask Heritage to pull the two proof and essay from this years FUN sale I was trying to locate this but the link take me to a bunch of coin bags. Any help in locating these items on Heritage auction would be appreciated. |
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Thanks for linking the first lot, the second is lot#29036 it's a 1966 20 dollar photo essay with serial# AB 1234567, have very limited computer skills, will try to upload De La Rue 125 prototype when I get some help. The second lot was next day FUN auction
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Thank you. Would love to see the De La Rue
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Paisa there is a post on De La Rue
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