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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: I see wear in Lincoln's hair and in the wheat ears on the reverse so it can't be a MS coin. Au-58. I think you're right. I just compared this one to the OP's. 
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Bedrock of the Community
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Seller's photos, once it actually gets here I'll take pics :P
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
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Pillar of the Community
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I'm leaning towards MS64/5 wear on woodies tend to make affected area darker..lite strike?...wonder what Moxking would give it on eye appeal?
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It looks MS to me,maybe as high as 63? John1 
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Bedrock of the Community
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Striking quality will affect details in the hair. Almost impossible to tell if this is circulated without having it in hand.
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Quote: I see wear in Lincoln's hair and in the wheat ears on the reverse so it can't be a MS coin. Au-58. MS is relative to the original coin starting at MS70 based on surface preservation, strike, luster and eye appeal deductions are made. a coin still can be MS even it was in circulation so long as there is no actual wear from handling. AU is a circulated coin that shows very light wear on the highest devices woodies are very challenging to grade by photo as the striations makes it very difficult to determine wear from softer strike. In this case the coin appears to be a weaker strike as the hair, beard and stalks are not fully struck up. I'm not saying that there is no wear, I'm saying that this coin could possible be MS even if it saw circulation if in fact it was a weakly struck
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Bedrock of the Community
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I see no signs of circulation based on the given pictures.....which could be deceiving. Looking for signs, I eventually defaulted to the rims and they are free of evidence. To completely determine between AU and MS will require looking at the luster under the patina. Mint state woodies still cartwheel with the correct light. Disruptions in the fields of the cartwheel spokes or lack of spokes tells if it's an AU coin. No matter what, it's a beautiful woody!  MS-63 TPGWG-65 BadThad
Edited by BadThad 04/29/2019 7:27 pm
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paralyse, no opinion on the grade, but when you get the coin, compare it to 1927 DDO-001, 1-O-I-CW on Variety Vista ( 1927 1¢ WDDO-001 on Wexler). While the seller's photos are blurry, I think I see extra thickness on the "9" in the date, the obverse "Unicorn" marker on the "2" in the date, and the reverse marker inside the "O" in "OF." I could very well be wrong about this, but it is definitely worth checking.
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fortcollins -- will do, thank you!
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
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Bedrock of the Community
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Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
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63BN Love the Woodys, that is an excellent example.
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Pillar of the Community
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I think it is a MS65BN. I'm not sure what the market grade would be; probably a 63. MDS I don't see any marks in the prime focal areas, or for that matter on the bust. Remember that grading is MOSTLY based on actual wear and contact marks till about MS65. After that aesthetics comes into play.
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Tough coin to grade, looks more like a weak strike rather than wear to me but impossible to tell from photos. At a minimum AU 58 if it is wear and a good chance of MS63 BN if not. Regardless, a very nice coin with great eye appeal.
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Valued Member
United States
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I looked at it and thought 63 BN right away. after reading the thread I realised I already said that once before. I'm fairly confident o that. Nice one.!!
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Pillar of the Community
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@paralyse, Thank you for posting the additional photos. I keep pausing on what looks like a possible doubled eyelid. I'm just not sure and I'm not sure on the markers, either. I'm going to reach out to one of the real DDO experts on the modern variety forum and see if he would be willing to take a look at your pics.
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