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Valued Member
 United States
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I expected to see something but its like a blank planchet it seems unless theres something I can't see. I'll have to check when I get back home. Defiitely some oddities with this batch of ancients... once the dirt came off this is all it was. Very perplexing.
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CCF Advertiser
 United States
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The second photo has no image at all. But the first might have some details. See below:   Edited by louisvillekyshop
05/04/2019 4:58 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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Maybe try and use a blacklight? Do you think that would help see if there are details?
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Valued Member
United States
194 Posts |
I'm thinking if I cant find any details I may make something out of it lol. Make my own coin hahaha
Edited by thelionwarrior
05/04/2019 4:39 pm
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CCF Advertiser
United States
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OK, the system changed both of my photos once I posted a second with a drawing so I just learned something about this computer system. (Now I got this sorted out.)  Edited by louisvillekyshop
05/04/2019 4:59 pm
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United States
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The reason I said that is because the cuts are uniform, most trimmed Byzantine coins aren't. That and the absence of any detail also. Of course I could be wrong.
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CCF Advertiser
United States
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Echizento;
Certainly there is an intent to make an elongated octagon. But the item is hand clipped at best and not exacting for standards at all. So it is not stamped by a machine for a shape in my opinion. Could have been jewelry backing perhaps but not holed at all so it would need a bezel. And I recognize I am probably really stretching the limits with what I might be seeing. But sadly my eyes and mind are now biased to seeing the figure and I just can't un-see it. Sort of like when people see ghosts in smoke or Gods in clouds I imagine.
I am sure it was found with uncleaned coins, so there are only so many things you find with these. Buttons, medals, etc. And the original poster says he cleaned off the item so what was the time-frame of the rest of the lot as these things travel in packs from finds to people who clean them.
Edited by louisvillekyshop
05/04/2019 7:45 pm
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United States
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@TLW, can you please give us the weight, thickness, length, and width of this piece? I ask because some small German coins (e.g. Hellers) were clipped in a similar pattern. A Heller would be much thinner and lighter than a Byzantine Trachy. @echizento also brings up a good point that it may not be a coin at all.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Valued Member
United States
194 Posts |
Its about 3/4 inch long by 5/8 inch wide. Weight is 2.8 grams
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Valued Member
United States
194 Posts |
The weight is very interesting... it's much bigger than a copper penny yet weighs less. Is bronze lighter than copper?
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Australia
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I'd have to agree with the "not a coin" theory. I'm not even sure it's numismatic (i.e. I don't think it's a token of some kind either). If it's ancient, it might be a merchant's weight of some kind (though ancient examples of those are mostly stone, rather than metal). And 2.8 grams is very lightweight for an ancient unit of weight.
My assumption would be a piece of jewellery or something similarly decorative, perhaps inserted into something wooden or another metal object to give a contrasting colour? The large central discoloured blob implies to me it may have been in contact with or attached to something there.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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With no visible image I would have to agree with others that it is not a coin, frustrating I know but sometimes it cant be helped. I own a similar item but mine has an image on 1 side, not sure what it is but pretty sure it is not a coin despite the image being well known from ancient Greece. 1 side blank The other has Stellar/ flower pattern in an incuse square Weight 0.33g Size 10mm   |
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Valued Member
United States
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Im actually more intrigued with it not being a coin...lol. makes me wonder what in the world it was used for... maybe it was a template for something? Maybe something was meant to attatch to it? So weird....
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Valued Member
United States
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What about this. Would you leave it as it is and just wait and see if anyone can figure it out or would you create something out of it just for fun? Lol. I'm kind of tempted to do the latter
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United States
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Would you leave it as it is and just wait and see if anyone can figure it out or would you create something out of it just for fun? Personally, I have a little bin filled with multiple "culls" that are unidentifiable so far... Also, just for reference, here is my Heller with a similar shape (1788; Saxe-Hildburghausen):   It is 16 mm x 17 mm and weighs 0.8 g. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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