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1880 S Green Bean Morgan Guess's?

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 Posted 05/12/2019  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eternallogan to your friends list
It has the eye appeal of a 66, but it technically appears to be a 65. Great MS-65 to buy!
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 Posted 05/14/2019  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farrider11 to your friends list
Anyone want to change their vote with some in hand pictures? If this isn't PL, I don't know what is.

I believe the boys in the grading room were hung over on a Monday, but that's just me lol.

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 Posted 05/14/2019  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list
How deep are the mirrors?
The PL designation requires that they be a minimum 2" deep.
That cannot be evaluated from an image.
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 Posted 05/15/2019  01:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farrider11 to your friends list
Dumb question, but how do you measure that?
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 Posted 05/15/2019  07:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farrider11 to your friends list
Ok, I googled it I can read 5 lines of newspaper at 3 1/2 to 4 inches on both sides.
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 Posted 05/15/2019  09:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Whatever the grade it's a sensational coin.
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 Posted 05/15/2019  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
I hear that PCGS is really tough on PL and DMPL designations lately and can only guess that there is an area that they felt did not meet their current criteria.

It is a very solid example for the grade and worthy of the CAC green bean.
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 Posted 05/15/2019  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farrider11 to your friends list
Ah, well maybe at some point she needs to find a new home in an NGC holder, but for now, the rent isn't high and there are beans in the house LOL
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 Posted 05/15/2019  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
farrider11, I can see NGC calling that a MS66 still not convinced it's fully PL, but then again I haven't held it. Maybe the hold back on the PL designation was the amount of frosty cameo on Liberty's cheek?
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 Posted 05/17/2019  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farrider11 to your friends list
Well I've always found that ebay sets the market price on low dollar coins, let's see what they think lol
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 Posted 05/18/2019  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farrider11 to your friends list
OMG, there loosing there minds on this one at ebay, I'm getting all kinds of messages, asking me to break ebay rules and end the auction and sell for this that and the other thing.

This one guy, is insistent he wants free shipping LOL.

I knew this would bring a lot of traffic, I put up really good pictures :)
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 Posted 05/19/2019  01:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eternallogan to your friends list
Wouldn't be surprised if it goes for around $150 on a 7 day auction, it really is a nice coin for the grade, although I don't think it is undergraded.
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 Posted 05/19/2019  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farrider11 to your friends list
He already offered $175, but I'm not going to break the rules. If you can read 3 or 4 lines of newspaper at 3 inches on all the fields front and back, its under graded. I think thats what CAC saw.
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 Posted 05/19/2019  3:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andy Herkimer to your friends list

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I think thats what CAC saw.


If CAC thought it it was under graded it would have a gold bean.
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 Posted 05/19/2019  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eternallogan to your friends list
Perhaps it is PL, perhaps not, obviously PCGS didn't think so, and they are the experts. It definitely looks correctly graded at 65 though, and the CAC is because it looks exceptional for the grade, which has been said by me and many others.
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