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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Just another example of greed driven hype.
Nothing is sacred.
You can even buy a piece of concrete and a piece of twisted steel from ground zero. Hey, if you're lucky, you may get one with some blood on it!
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Canada
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Sadly this is exactly what those who staged this event long before it happened would want "us" to do with such findings.
Although there is clearly a market for this, just as joecoin has stated it is an example of "greed driven hype".
The people and organizations who sanctioned this, would actually be loving the idea of this "blood profit".
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Can't ignore the obvious-
This coin was likely on or in the desk of a victim who probably worked for one of the financial firms located in those towers.
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Canada
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The coins were not found on some victim's desk. They were discovered in the under ground vaults of the WTC. Apparently the coins belonged to the Bank of Nova Scotia who stored them in safety deposit boxes in the vaults. http://goccf.com/t/16369&whichpage=2 |
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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So, a very brief breakdown in bullet form: (Thank you MoneyPenney for the link) Lee Minshull bought around $560,000 worth of coins from The Bank of Nova Scotia. BNS donated the full $562,000 to 9/11 charities. These coins were located inside one of the World Trade Center bullion vaults. This amounted to about 100,000 coins, according to the article. The 100,000 coins were submitted to PCGS, along with verified info surrounding the origin of the coins. PCGS slabbed, pedigreed and labelled the coins. Lee Minshull resold the coins for $3,000,000 and donated all the money to the World Trade Center Memorial Fund. Named ANA dealer of the year in 2014 to recognize his commitment to charity. Edited by JGG
06/07/2019 03:32 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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As I understand it:
The coins were not in or below either of the twin towers.The labels don't indicate that they were, they identify them as coming from "Ground Zero". They came out of Tower 7 or was it Tower 4?.
Perhaps there were coins in both buildings that have been encapsulated and sold as recovery coins?
The Bank of Nova Scotia and Lee Minshull both donated proceeds of the sale of the coins to the victims fund. This is laudable and certainly changes my opinion.
I can understand owning something like this if I had been there that day or had lost someone that day.
I'm not so understanding of someone who wants to own something like this just for the morbid curiosity of it. But whatever floats your boat I guess.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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BNS vault was in the Twin Towers. They removed $317,000,000 worth of gold and precious metals from the vault using a convoy of armoured cars: https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.the...cle20934461/Within 60 days of the attacks, the BNS had already recovered all of their precious metals from Ground Zero. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Even not need to go to extremes.
The circulation coins, banknotes from a site, watches (this is more problematic) could be sold on the actions as artifacts witnesses of the tragedy.
And some people would buy.
The items from Titanic for example...
Or few years ago some mint (I think RM) minted bullion coins from a silver found on a sunk ship and distributed them.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote:...BNS vault was in the Twin Towers. They removed $317,000,000 worth of gold and precious metals from the vault using a convoy of armoured cars: https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.the...cle20934461/ Now I'm confused. The article you linked says the vault was in Building 4, which was not one of the two towers that were the targets. |
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Canada
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Hi Joe, you are right. I re-read the article and the vaults appear to have been in building 4. Interesting.
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Pillar of the Community
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Off topic, but does anyone remember the Helmet shaped coin that was released last year or so.
I remember watching The Coin Show with Steven Bromberg. And the host and Steven were drooling over the Helmet coin and proclaiming how "cool" and "amazing" the bullet hole on the coin was and just general lollygagging over the coin.
I just couldn't help but feel "My god, these 2 are so far removed from life of war and terror." I get they're trying to sell a product, but when I see a coin with a bullet mark on it, I think it's sad and sombre and a reflection of how terrible war is. I feel commemorative coins with a focus on remembrance are fine, but a coin sprayed with bullets is a cheap gimmick to sell a coin, and using the terror soldiers went through to sell a coin.
I'd like to see those two hosts go to a war veteran or their children and talk about how cool that coin is. I changed the channel...:/
I feel the same way about these SMLs
Edited by wilsonwu89
06/08/2019 2:26 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
634 Posts |
I fully agree - commemorating war vets in any format (including coins) should be done with utmost dignity and respect - always!!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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These items drip of bad karma. Not for me.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
798 Posts |
Not to play devil's advocate, but I would suggest that the majority of the gold and silver sourced prior to 1800, and perhaps even up to today, was done unethically. Inca, Aztec, Mayan, Byzantine, Roman, Vatican, Viking, European 'heresies' and barbarians, East India, Manchuria, Congo, Rhodesia, Napoleon's Crusade, the overthrow of the Russian monarchy, WW1 and WW2, Iraq, Syria, Libya ... I mean, quite literally, 100s of millions of people have met early deaths in the pursuit of 'wealth and riches' (historically gold and silver).
Great input and conversation y'all. Very interesting.
Edited by JGG
06/09/2019 10:09 am
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