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Starting A Collection Of World Silver Coinage

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 Posted 06/28/2019  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
One of the approaches I use
is look a a dealers bulk stock of one particular type (for example Walker half dollars), looking for best value for money:
If the opportunity presents itself, I will only cherry pick a single best coin out of perhaps 30 or more coins in the bulk lot. Not greedy, I will leave the next best for another collector.

Another approach:
I have found that many more real bargains are available, when you open your options to cherry pick across the whole of numismatics, ancient to modern.

I never set my heart on looking for particular coins.
I never try to build sets of coins, but I will always jump on a key coin IF it also happens to be a cherry pick that has been missed by others. That does happen sometimes, with World coins.

I have found that buying efficiency is typically around 15-20% of catalog value, or around 30-40% of current market value.
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 Posted 07/05/2019  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ariette to your friends list
Some recent pickups. These were acquired at auction at 50 cents to the gram of silver content (total of 10 dollars and change).

1943 Australia one florin (purity: 0.925, ASW: 10.46 g)

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1953 Panama medio balboa (purity: 0.9, ASW: 11.25 g)

This one is the same size and purity as a pre-1965 US half dollar, as the Panama balboa was apparently pegged to the US dollar.

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 Posted 07/05/2019  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Interesting.
50 Cents per gram ASW is about 3.75% above the current spot price of 48.2 Cents per gram.
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 Posted 07/05/2019  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list
Airette...nice condition coins.

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 Posted 07/05/2019  11:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Some recent pickups. These were acquired at auction at 50 cents to the gram of silver content (total of 10 dollars and change).
Well done!
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 Posted 07/08/2019  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ariette to your friends list
Small addition to the collection:

1944 Philippines 20 centavos (purity: 0.75, ASW: 3 g)

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 Posted 07/08/2019  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ryurazu to your friends list
Nice buy on the 20c Chinese coin, pretty collectable and heavily faked.
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 Posted 07/10/2019  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ariette to your friends list
Lots of goodies today:

1952 Mexico 5 pesos (purity: 0.72, ASW: 20 g). This one is about as big as a one ounce silver round, or a US silver dollar:

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1920 United Kingdom 1 florin (purity: 0.5, ASW: 5.65 g):

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1931 Iraq 50 fils (purity: 0.5, ASW: 4.5 g):

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I picked these three up (about 30 grams of total silver content) for under $15. Seems like ebay auctions are the way to go for acquiring cheap world silver coins.
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 Posted 07/11/2019  12:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ryurazu to your friends list
true ebay is probably the way to go if you want odd and ends, however to be careful of fakes when collecting rarer pieces.
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 Posted 07/11/2019  01:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
The British 'Two Bob' (=Florin) is an interesting coin in terms of it's alloy.

50% fine with the other 50% a standard copper nickel alloy.
The alloy turned out to be a failure, because the coins developed an ugly yellowish toning.

In 1922, the alloy was changed to billon (an alloy of 50% silver, 50% copper.) The Royal Mint still wasn't completely happy, because of wear characteristics, and the fact that the coins tended to darken more than was completely desirable.

So, the alloy was changed again in 1928, to quaternary metal (50% silver, 40% copper,5% nickel 5% zinc).
The blanks were blanched in acid then rinsed, before converting into planchets, thence passed to the coining presses.
The acid had the effect of enriching the silver in the surface layer to around 90%, which made them look like 90% silver coins.

This also created a problem, because as the coins wore down in circulation, the poorer alloy showed through the wear points. This problem was tolerated by The Royal Mint, and quaternary metal continued to be used until 1945. Australian silver coinage continued to be made from quaternary metal until 1964.
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 Posted 07/11/2019  07:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ariette to your friends list

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The British 'Two Bob' (=Florin) is an interesting coin in terms of it's alloy.


Interesting information. I wasn't aware that they altered the base metal composition of the 50% silver coins. Just that they lowered the silver content from sterling to 50% in 1920, which lasted until 1946.
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 Posted 07/11/2019  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ariette to your friends list
1953 Mexico 25 centavos (purity: 0.3, ASW: 1 g):

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I've noticed that when you drop this particular coin, it gives a dull thud not unlike the sound a clad quarter makes. The distinctive tone associated with silver is essentially absent. Seems like the more you debase the coinage, the less of a ring it gives when dropped, which makes sense I guess.
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 Posted 08/09/2019  2:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CalzoneManiac to your friends list
I have a handful of world silver coins which I might show in this thread.
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