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Pillar of the Community
United States
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My response? "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private." pointing at the fine print. The coffee shop still resistant, "Then I guess it must be free.". She accepted it. 
ANA member - PAN Member - BCCS Member There are no problems only solutions - the late, great John Lennon
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Valued Member
United States
476 Posts |
The company I work for quit taking credit card payments.
For purchases/payments, the credit card provider (Visa, Master Card, Discover, etc) charges a fee, the card processing company charges a fee for every transaction, and then charges a monthly maintenance and use fee. For every dollar we charged, we were paying anywhere from 4% to 7.5% in fees. With invoices anywhere from 10K to 35k the fees would be up to $2,600.00.
In Florida, a company cannot charge a service charge for credit card payments. The local/state/federal government is the only body that could charge an additional fee for using a credit/debit card. The only legal option to recover those fees would be to increase prices. The price would need to be raised for the product or service. Then in turn, the company could offer a discount for cash. In a price driven industry, higher prices detracted customers even with the the offer for a cash discount.
So, I cannot understand why some companies only take credit/debit payments. I can only conclude, those companies have probably increased their prices to offset their fees.
Heck, most of my coins in my books are from pocket change.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4333 Posts |
I sure love cash discounts!
When I listen to LED ZEPPELIN...so do my neighbors... Roll hunting since '77 Dirt fishing since '72
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Valued Member
United States
86 Posts |
$carlp007 Aye, and those charges really add up for the big banks who get their cut on the fees. My friend's little pizza, soup, sandwich, and salad shop enters over 40% of its sales through the credit card terminal. If for any reason a card is declined, he is still charged a fifty cent transaction fee.
In the long run, all consumers are paying a little more for this cashless society.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1005 Posts |
If I were en employee and business were slow at a no cash place, I'd take the cash and swipe my own card to cover it in the system to get the cash back.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: So, I cannot understand why some companies only take credit/debit payments. I can only conclude, those companies have probably increased their prices to offset their fees. Companies with many small transactions are inclined to take credit/debit payments because their actual cost of handling/counting money is greater than or equal to the cost of taking the credit card payments. On the other end of the spectrum are companies like the one you work for. It absolutely doesn't make sense for a company with a few large transactions to take credit cards without a markup, especially because most of their business customers would pay the invoice without a credit card anyway. My business is in Georgia and we can charge a markup for taking credit cards. It's 3% which just covers the additional costs. We only sell to businesses and typically only about 1% of our customers use credit cards. They are usually on small orders, so the dollars don't add up to much. This week we had a customer that's lake on paying for previous orders use a credit card in order to pay for them so that we would ship a new order that they need. Their fee for using the credit card was over $7,000! Their credit card company approved the transaction, but it actually took several days for our bank to approve it as they were initially not comfortable with the large transaction. Quote: In the long run, all consumers are paying a little more for this cashless society. Yes, which is ironic considering that it should actually be an efficiency improvement. The market is getting more competitive with new forms of payment. Plus, many consumers now have 1.5% and 2% cash back cards. When you subtract the cash back from the markup, the actual cost isn't as much for them.
Edited by Bret 07/27/2019 09:03 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6130 Posts |
I've seen a few brick and mortar stores that don't even have cash registers. One that is still around is a little "ice cream" shop, except that it's cookie dough instead of ice cream. Dangerous on the waist and the wallet.
It makes a lot of sense to do business without cash, since there are plenty of costs associated with cash - Armored car services, physical registers and safes, additional insurance against robbery, and of course the chance that you could get a counterfeit or one of your minimum wage employees feels they deserve a little bonus. And last but certainly not least, this little cookie dough shop had their POS set up so that after swiping your card, the cashier could look you dead in the eye as you slide the "tip" slider to $0 after it defaults to a 15% tip to place a scoop of cookie dough into a cardboard cup and put sprinkles on it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1005 Posts |
Quote: And last but certainly not least, this little cookie dough shop had their POS set up so that after swiping your card, the cashier could look you dead in the eye as you slide the "tip" slider to $0 after it defaults to a 15% tip to place a scoop of cookie dough into a cardboard cup and put sprinkles on it. 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
17884 Posts |
Quote: I sure love cash discounts! Except the "cash discount" probably isn't a discount. The price you pay after the discount is what it would have been if it wasn't for the higher price they have to charge to cover the fees on the people using plastic. It's like any other place that marks it's prices up and then has a "Sale" and charges the old regular price.
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Valued Member
 United States
213 Posts |
I was closing on a house long ago and the COUNTY said they could not take cash. Cashier's checks or money orders only.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
4592 Posts |
Quote: This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private. Is irrelevant - there isn't a debt created until you have a contract, which requires them to agree to accept the offered payment.
-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
12837 Posts |
I don't think any title companies acept cash for closing costs these days.
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Moderator
 United States
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And for good reason. Who wants to be the one to make the cash deposit late at night? Ever notice the night deposit window is the worst lit part of the bank? 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
927 Posts |
I personally would not use a card for any purchase below $10. Cash only. If I wanted to make a $5 purchase and the "cashier" told me it was card only, I would go elsewhere. I like spending cash and I look at every coin and bill that I receive. A cashless society would take all of the fun out of it. I do use a card for most purchases over $10, but I want the option. I believe that cash will be around longer than most people think.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4333 Posts |
@perfessor I agree with your comment. I love getting change back and checking for collectible coins, and have done so for 45 years. I've found hundreds of wheaties and dozens of silvers over time. Also, when using cash, I don't over spend like one does when using plastic. When the cash in my wallet is gone, it's gone. Quote: I believe that cash will be around longer than most people think. Kind of like the land line telephone. Not going away any time soon.
When I listen to LED ZEPPELIN...so do my neighbors... Roll hunting since '77 Dirt fishing since '72
Edited by fistfulladirt 07/30/2019 05:55 am
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