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1853 Arrows Seated Half You Vs TPG

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 Posted 08/18/2019  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nfine to your friends list
Looks AU-58 to me
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 Posted 08/18/2019  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin-Flipper to your friends list
I see no wear. MS63 shot at MS64
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 Posted 08/18/2019  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list
From photos, IMO, AU-58
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 Posted 08/18/2019  11:34 am  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
Minimal rub on the upper leg and breasts, so I'd say AU-58, but I could also see MS-63.
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 Posted 08/18/2019  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list
I'm with the AU-58 group.
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 Posted 08/18/2019  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Heymikep to your friends list
AU-58.
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 Posted 08/18/2019  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
AU58. nice coin
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 Posted 08/19/2019  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Very difficult to see wear under the rather nice patina.
If blast white, the evidence of any wear would have been much easier to detect. For this reason, the presence or absence of small nicks and hairline scratches are also more difficult to prove, either way.

With these pictures, (which are quite OK), and to my eye, this coin is a slider AU55 to MS62.

Would love to examine this coin raw, in hand, with a 10X loupe, just as a TPGrader would do.
We have to contend with:
1. looking through the plastic cover of the slab, which may also have minor surface scratches or nicks and the probable presence of tiny dust particles,
2. make allowance for the patina in the search for hairlines and very minimal wear,
3. our inability to hold the coin at different angles if incident light.
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 Posted 08/19/2019  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
sel - You've said it well, and we'll forgive you if you're wrong, but what's your bid?
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 Posted 08/19/2019  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list

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With these pictures, (which are quite OK), and to my eye, this coin is a slider AU55 to MS62.


That's what it looks like to me. Likely an AU58 that would grade as a MS62. Such pieces can go AU55 with conservative graders.
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 Posted 08/19/2019  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bandsdean to your friends list
MS62. Nice one!
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MS-63
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 Posted 08/20/2019  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
As for me (as said before), a slider, AU55-MS62.
The TPGrader has more observational advantages than I do.

Looks to be a reasonably good strike, but there may? be a flat area on leg, above Lib's right knee, which would be in conflict with a no wear sharp strike, thus leading to the idea hat there may be some wear at that point.
My observational problem is that I am not quite able to make up my mind from what I see.
One of the reasons why I would love to examine this piece in hand, as a TPGrader would do.
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08/20/2019 12:20 am
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MS61 NGC is the grade
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